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Well this site is about three levels below spiceworks now.

@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

@Jason said in analog video stream:

@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

@Jason said in analog video stream:

You mean meeting presentation software? yeah that has nothing to do with live broadcast.

Right, neither does this thread It's just two other rooms watching what is going on in the sanctuary.

Which is a broadcast feed but okay. Whatever you can't take sense into anyone here.

Well by that logic, meeting presentation is broadcast too. One presenter, multiple recipients. So it's all broadcast then.

No, No it's not.

@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

@Jason said in analog video stream:

You mean meeting presentation software? yeah that has nothing to do with live broadcast.

Right, neither does this thread It's just two other rooms watching what is going on in the sanctuary.

Which is a broadcast feed but okay. Whatever you can't take sense into anyone here.

@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

@Jason said in analog video stream:

Keep in mind this is not the modern way. Any professional AV company suggesting a solution like Scotts should be fired immediately. It's so freaking oblivious he has no professional AV experience but keeps pretending like his is the expert on the matter. Dude get over it. This forum is official worse than Spiceworks. So many idiotic suggestions that are lower than consumer level.

Ah, but this isn't a professional AV situation, so what is the purpose of that comment? I think you've missed the boat. This is about getting a quick, easy and cheap feed from the sanctuary into two other rooms. If a professional AV company was involved, someone would have seriously missed the goals. So I take that as a compliment that I stayed focused to the goal and wasn't just showboating that I know AV. I'm trying to solve a business problem, but prove that I know AV club skills.

Bahahahah. You people are insane.

@thanksajdotcom said in analog video stream:

@Jason said in analog video stream:

Keep in mind this is not the modern way. Any professional AV company suggesting a solution like Scotts should be fired immediately. It's so freaking oblivious he has no professional AV experience but keeps pretending like his is the expert on the matter. Dude get over it. This forum is official worse than Spiceworks. So many idiotic suggestions that are lower than consumer level.

Really? Because companies like Adobe, Cisco and Citrix have GoTo Meeting, Webex, and whatever Adobe's presentation software is called now. The world has been moving in this direction, as far as live feeds, broadcasting, etc. And "it's so freaking oblivious" that you are actually the one who is demonstrating how oblivious you are. Spending more now to ensure you are ready for the future makes every sense. Implementing admittedly outdated systems because they are cheaper now is a, at best, short-term gain (because of cost-savings) with a long-term loss. Implement a modern system now and then you are ready for future adjustments/additions.

You mean meeting presentation software? yeah that has nothing to do with live broadcast.

Keep in mind this is not the modern way. Any professional AV company suggesting a solution like Scotts should be fired immediately. It's so freaking oblivious he has no professional AV experience but keeps pretending like his is the expert on the matter. Dude get over it. This forum is official worse than Spiceworks. So many idiotic suggestions that are lower than consumer level.

and if they have money to blow:

http://www.vaddio.com/category/live-production-solutions

http://www.vaddio.com/category/vaddio-hd-ptz-cameras

but you will never get the same motion with a PTZ as you will a real camera. They look robotic and fake.

Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

@stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

@DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

@stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

On stage would be really hard to do because you can't get the full range of everything, and if you directly feed in the aux from the mixer you will pick up every pop and hum and off tone person.

Yup you need a sub-mix (digital boards can do this as a matrix, Send etc, analog would have to use an aux mix) but you need an audience mic or two to mix in with it... but they must be delayed based on placement from the speakers

@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

@brianlittlejohn said in analog video stream:

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@Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

@DustinB3403 There isn't a budget. Someone bought two TVs, and then came to me and asked me what else they needed. I guessing the TVs aren't smart TVs. Even if they are, I just tried taking a Foscam camera I had and going to it from the web browser in my samsung smart TV. It flat out didn't work. I could get to the web page, but the "server push" mode wouldn't work. (I knew the Active X mode wasn't going to work.) On my laptop, I only get audio if I download a plug in, so I don't think a camera like that is going to work on most TVs.

The other camera I have on my bench is a Ubiquiti Unifi G3 dome. I know I can't view that with a browser, so I'm going to have to set up a server just to test that unless I'm missing something.

Something you might be able to do which may be easier is to use an IP camera, and OBS, use the IP camera as a source within OBS and then make a youtube stream.

I've not got to try this before personally (using OBS and an IP camera) but I can't imagine it's not doable.

Oh, that's a potentially good idea. Get the video to YouTube then you don't have to worry about compatibility. The only issue is bandwidth.

Broadcasting on Youtube could bring in a whole new set of licensing issues for the music used during the service... just a thought.

Likely that licensing is either already handled or already a problem. But possibly there is a limit there. But can't you make YouTube private so the licensing would remain the same?

Churches are exempt from licesning music used as part of a normally schedule worship service. This exemption does not cover lyrics projected hence CCLI, nor broadcast or online steaming, podcast etc. nor does it cover special services (plays, musicals, etc)

@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

@brianlittlejohn said in analog video stream:

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@dafyre said in analog video stream:

At my home church, they had a "broadcast" license for the music and such, so it wouldn't be an issue for our recordings to go up on vimeo...

That's normally how it is handled, AFAIK.

From when I worked for a church there was a pretty big price jump (from what I remember) from performing it live to broadcasting / podcasting the music used.

Broadcast and podcast are very different. One is live, one is recorded.

If you are streaming the music there is still a large fee unless you keep it local (not on the internet)

@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

@coliver said in analog video stream:

You could even broadcast with Twitch or a streaming service with an IP camera or something attached to a laptop. Use something like OBS.

YouTube and Facebook too, these days.

Most churches don't have the bandwidth for that nor do they want ads to be shown that they can't control on their stream.

@DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

@scottalanmiller That was my thought, going to analog would be more painful and you'd need to have a server to broadcast it

Um no you don't. Analog is a bad choice but you don't need a server. Not true at all.

@DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

Am I understanding that the use case of this is to act like a surveillance system for the church? But without the recording aspect?

If so wouldn't browser-capable IP camera's be enough for this setup?

More like an overflow room, nursery feed etc.

Can anyone recommend a camera with a mic and a zoom lens? Can I run a separate RG6 cable and then just put a RCA adapter on the end of it for audio?

You likely want put a mix off the sound board into the feed, maybe add an audience mic for some room sounds but you will need to add a delay for that.

On the Cheaper end you have these

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013316TWU/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0133173IY

The first one is what I use at home with CAT6. Just add power I've done many system installs of before it's really the best system out there for HDMI. Though HD-SDI or 3G SDI is really the best bet for true IMAG distribution.

Just add power is one of the systems along with Just Add software you should be looking into. It's a very flexiable system.

http://justaddpower.com/

http://www.justaddsoftware.net/Welcome.html

yes you can do RG6 with RCA.. But why?

@dafyre said in Identifying CAT 6 Connections:

@aaronstuder said in Identifying CAT 6 Connections:

Is there software that could tell me what devices are connected on which port on the switch?

Assuming you have smart / managed switches, the Linkrunner will be your easiest bet...

Otherwise, you can plug a laptop up, and search the switch for that Mac address until you find what port it is on. It sucks to do it like that, but it does work.

or just leave everything the way it is, run a network monitor to find where devices are plugged into..

@aaronstuder said in Identifying CAT 6 Connections:

Is there software that could tell me what devices are connected on which port on the switch?

Yes. There are plenty. Not always accurate depending on your switch topology