@scottalanmiller Thx for the heads up, that is great news.

@Minion-Queen said in Windows Desktop PC's: preferred suppliers?:

If we or a customer are looking for desktops we send them to Softmart (yes them again). They are awesome and will do a lot of the hunting for us if we are looking for something but not sure exactly what we/client needs.

Anyone know of a Softmart equivalent on the West Coast? I'd like to eliminate the 1 week shipping time from the East Coast.

@scottalanmiller said in Server and Storage Redundancy:

Now, you did not mention your hypervisor choice. I'll throw some ideas out there.

• XenServer: XS is 100% free including all of the tools that you need for it. It is super easy to use and amazingly powerful. Full replicated local storage is included in it, as is high availability features. It has very high performance and is very mature. It has, by far, the best centralized management options (for free no less) than any of its competitors. Easiest to use, most powerful and robust option in my experience.
• Hyper-V: HV is 100% free but does not include as many ancillary tools or features. For replicated local storage you will use StarWind, which is free but third party. You will get full HA with RLS for zero cost here as well. More complex, less performant, less mature. But definitely your second choice. Bigger learning curve in my experience.
• VMware: Not free, will be a few thousand dollars to get fewer features than either XenServer or Hyper-V. Very mature. You will use StarWind here again, but StarWind does not have the same level of integration here as on Hyper-V so while it is the best choice, it is not as ideal as it is on Hyper-V. So very high cost, loss of features, loss of storage performance.

None of these come with support in the base price, all allow you to pay for support after installing. XenServer has excellent support from Citrix and numerous third parties. VMware has excellent support from, well, VMware, of course. Hyper-V is mired with Microsoft's notoriously bad support.

I'm more of a Hyper-V guy (like 99.99%)

I've taken a quickie look at XS, even went as far as doing a test install.
I really like the look & feel of XS, but I'm not yet comfortable enough to deploy in production.

It has been mentioned here that folks like NTG can provide support.

Is it possible to start a list of who's who regarding 3rd party support of XS?
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@JaredBusch said in ownCloud Founder and CTO Leaves to Pursue Other Opportunities:

I will admit that those exact things are why I do not 100% jump behind ownCloud.

What are "those exact things"?

@aaronstuder said in Dropbox alternatives:

@scottalanmiller @dafyre He clearly stated it "must be hosted"

Definitely prefer hosted.

Self installing OC is a 'lil out of my comfort zone

Help. looking for a Dropbox alternative, must be hosted & have "fast" uploads.

On my 150/150 FIOS connection, it takes 1+ hour to upload a 4GB MP4 file.

From ZT's 4/21 email
"Our iOS version is now in beta. If you want to try it out via TestFlight drop us an e-mail and we'll send you an invite. "

I use Carbon Copy Cloner

@MattSpeller said:

Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users

I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.

Average price is $??
What size SSD?

Who is your preferred supplier & why?

Looking for desktop PCs in the price range of $350 - $700, for Task workers & entry level power users.

@KOOLER said:

@FATeknollogee said:

@FATeknollogee said:

@Dashrender said:

@FATeknollogee said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@FATeknollogee said:

@FATeknollogee said:

Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

Similar to Starwind in the Windows world

XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.

If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?

Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?

Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.

Let's try this again:

In Windows, you can take multiple boxes, add Starwind or Datacore = hyperconverged using local storage (no SAN needed).

How do you do the same thing with XS?

This can do HC for XenServer:
http://www.atlantiscomputing.com/products/atlantis-usx

It's interesting how much of Xen did they sell.

You mean how much of their sales is XenServer vs VMware? (since they support both)

@Mike-Davis Right click works fine.

@Mike-Davis said:

@FATeknollogee Can you tell me if right click works in an RDP session? (or at all?) I heard some android devices have a hard time with the right click.

@Mike-Davis Let me check
I'm updating the RDP app. The release notes for 8.1.30 says "fixed an issue where right-clicking did not work w external keyboards"

@scottalanmiller said:

@FATeknollogee said:

@travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

ownCloud.

I assumed the users will access more than oC even though the drawing doesn't show that?

@travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

@dafyre Thx

@scottalanmiller said:

I've used Slack at a few larger companies. It isn't bad. But can't imagine using it over Rocket.Chat. NTG Lab has RC in the lab and a how to guide here to make it super simple.

How to get more info on the guide?

@FATeknollogee said:

@Dashrender said:

@FATeknollogee said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@FATeknollogee said:

@FATeknollogee said:

Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

Similar to Starwind in the Windows world

XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.

If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?

Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?

Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.

Let's try this again:

In Windows, you can take multiple boxes, add Starwind or Datacore = hyperconverged using local storage (no SAN needed).

How do you do the same thing with XS?

This can do HC for XenServer:
http://www.atlantiscomputing.com/products/atlantis-usx

@Dashrender You have a "how to" instruction set?

@adam.ierymenko said:

@scottalanmiller You could also bridge it to a physical network if you have old boxes, printers, fax machines, etc. A Raspberry Pi makes a great bridge for $30.

Where is this bridge everyone keeps talking about?