@Dashrender said in How M$ shakedown stupid corporations:
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@Dashrender
You have not seen much of "real business" then, I cannot disclose info, but I think this corp is like multi-million revenue.
Thats how it is ins real world, they get bloated and move slower, thats what happen when corp grow, if you keep it startup-ish vibe and "move fast and break things" you will be running the latest but not everyone is like that.
Besides windows painfull upgrading process helps you to stick to whats running.
And no on the client side, its all Win10 ... sadly we use Win10 to manage Linux machines 😞
I hate that mremote/putty shit
This is false.
Big business makes quite an effort to stay current in the Windows world, especially if they are multi-billion $$ company. They HAVE to. It's not a choice.
It's constant change going on, all the time. 2019 is current, when a server is needed at all. Most are really going serverless when possible, lots of SaaS, Cloud, etc.
You might be thinking of U.S. defense companies. I mean they run old shit and pay millions and billions to maintain OAF software support.
I have to disagree: I've recently started a job as a GE/BH oil and gas consultant and they proudly stick on win 7...
They also stick with old unpatched software of all kinds... Maybe it is their italian BU only... But it is rather embarassing...
Proudly? What is there to be proud about running 10+ year old software? What are the chances that they are still running on the hardware from back then? Granted you fairly easily still get OEM machines with Windows 7 Pro will into 2016, if not even early 2017 - but still... The writing was on the wall.
Even with the number of hacks that happen every day, clearly enough hasn't happened to people/companies to make the rest stand up and take notice that running old software on machines that connect to the internet - and really, how much doesn't these days - to update their equipment. Unfortunately, this might be one of the first things for business where they can't use it until it dies (I'm talking about IT based technology here) - and I think that is the hard point. Of course businesses that are doing well, and understand efficiencies have been upgrading as the tech makes sense to, well before things like EOL software/hardware come into play, but then many other businesses that run on a shoe string just don't.
Sorry for the late replay. Really busy days...
They are specifically pay extra money to MS to have extra support for win7.
The "proudly" is part was mostly a joke. Reality is that big corps in Italy have very unaware decision makes.
They stick with really unprepared supplieres/staff which fill companies with tons of useless gear and SW which easily became unmanageable and a migration nigthmare. so that they easily reach a tech debt in few years (use a phisical token to auth in a vpn used to access the private github repo. Which runs over https...).
On the other side they simply check the bill to be sure it stays well under a predefined threshold simply wasting that money.
My last effort is to maintain a ui written by the wrong guy in the wrong language and used to keep alive a software whose user manual has been published in 1988!
And this is the second big corp I've knowleged of. The other one buyed the company I worked in. I've friends there and the logic is the same...
We say that their IT depts are salary factories: they leverage the ignorance of decison makers to auto feed them selves and be sure to increase the amount of men hours required to housekeep the whole infra...
