Scott specifically mentions that for my company 'size matters'.

@scottalanmiller said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

Even very large MSPs struggle with this, but at least they have more ability to handle it than do smaller ones. But in a shop with just two people, I suspect that you will find that this does not work as you imagine that it does and that incrementing an employee up the ladder doesn't work very well because customers don't generally have any need with regularity for incremental movements in their providers.

@coliver I guess I don't know the size of NTG.

@scottalanmiller How long have you been with NTG and when are you quitting?

@scottalanmiller said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

In operating system terms, and this is where my computer science background comes out, think of different employment styles as different "scheduling engines" for IT works. Compare IT workers to threads on a computer. In the old days, when we had no multitasking, that was like having one job for a lifetime and never switching. You get what you get.

Once we get to multitasking, different scheduling engines produce different results. Some switch between jobs rapidly, some slowly. But it is all job hopping or thread context switching, just at different speeds.

Given that very specific context I think we agree.

@scottalanmiller said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

We've already established, long before this point, that service providers don't count as job hopping internally, but do externally. That was in the discussion, not the video. So you have only made my point via that clarification. MSPs are, in a sense, a staffing firm. The difference is that staffing firms float IT pros between companies in the range of weeks or months, whereas MSPs do it in hours or days. But the result is the same - short term "employment" with different companies and the value of education is more or different companies that can utilize those new skills.

As an MSP, she doesn't really work for you, you pay her to work for someone else. Legally you get to call her an employee because her job hopping is so rapid that the IRS allows it in most cases, but certainly not all. Even as an MSP, if you assign her to just one or two large customers, she would legally switch (in most cases) to being their employee, not yours.

I think you established your definition of job hopping. My definition would be different, but yes, if you apply your definition I see your point. Essentially to a service provider (not a company with an internal I.T. staff) the video doesn't really apply.

@scottalanmiller While I don't agree with your definition of job hopping, if it is defined as job hopping you are right. However I don't think 'job hopping' is the same as staying with one service provider but working with a new client. Hell I job hop several times a day then.

@scottalanmiller said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

@ccwtech said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

@scottalanmiller said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

@ccwtech said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

@scottalanmiller Why couldn't I sell the services that a highly trained employee has?

So again, we are back to you being a service provider so to whom will you sell these skills? New customers? That's job hopping. See my point?

Not at all... I can expand services and reach markets I am not reaching now because I don't have the assets to handle those jobs.

No, exactly, you just described job hobbing. New companies in new markets.

But she would still be with my company. That's not job hopping. When I get a new client it's not job hopping.

@scottalanmiller said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

@ccwtech said in Should You Job Hop for Your Career in IT - SAMIT Video:

@scottalanmiller Why couldn't I sell the services that a highly trained employee has?

So again, we are back to you being a service provider so to whom will you sell these skills? New customers? That's job hopping. See my point?

Not at all... I can expand services and reach markets I am not reaching now because I don't have the assets to handle those jobs.

@scottalanmiller Why couldn't I sell the services that a highly trained employee has?

Also, study after study shows that the #1 reason people quit is job satisfaction. I don't believe I.T. is an exception. I think an employee who feels valued will stay at an employer longer than one who doesn't feel appreciated.

@scottalanmiller I'm new at being a boss. I doubled my staff 2.5 weeks ago. I hired my first full time employee. A person who doesn't have a ton of experience but is very intelligent, learns fast, is a hard worker, is great with clients and cares about my customers. I'm willing to develop her skills and as that happens I am happy to pay her more.

@scottalanmiller The incentive would be to develop the employee so they can move up in the company and make more money. I'm willing to pay my employee's more if they bring more to the table and make me more money.

What is the incentive for an employer to put any type of training or professional development into an employee if they are going to use that training to work for another company?

@aaronstuder said in Javascript pop up in Firefox on Yahoo Finance:

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Looks interesting... I think I'm just going to have him use Chrome. Not that Chrome doesn't come with it's own problems, but at least a good work around for this issue.

The odd thing is still that only on that network does the .js pop up appear. I guess it comes down to the fact it's a known issue with FF and until they fix it you just have to have add ons.

@danp That's good info. I'm wondering if you can just leave finance.yahoo.com up in the background. The pop-ups aren't always instant.

None. I did a nuke and pave and fresh install of FF from Ninite.com.

Here is an example: https://youtu.be/A5Q0efHMbU4

They don't want to block finance.yahoo.com and the multiple pages it's loading are too many to block.

Untangle doesn't appear to be compromised (from what I can see). I use Comcast and am geographically ~ 2 miles from their office and can't replicate it. I do use a Meraki instead of Untangle and many other parts of my network are different however. I haven't tried hooking a computer directly to the modem to see what happens if I do that... (I just thought of that while writing this.)