Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Farms would be picked clean in no time and very dangerous. Walmarts would be empty on day one.
Walmarts would be, yes, but user vehicles / homes would be stocked full.
Also IT people would presumably have a large horde of supplies if something like this did occur.
Your theory is dependent on a lot of assumptions that IT people will have unlimited access to food, unlimited access to transport and stockpiles, the ability to protect said caches before others come for them or zombies get you, etc. That's a lot of "this would solve all problems" as your underlying theory. Anyone who had reasonably unlimited access to water, food and security could just ride out the whole thing. Don't need to be IT people or even sentient at that point. If my cat had unlimited food, water and was in a secure facility it could outlive the zombies.
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The really smart IT people will just end it quickly. Who wants to live in the past and not have internet?
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@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
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@Minion-Queen said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
This is where you barter with Mennonite and Amish areas. You kill zombies in exchange for food/seeds, and training if you don't have it. They will need protection as many of them will not know or be willing to do much to protect themselves. And the Mennonites at least would be thrilled to teach.
Assuming that they aren't infected. Seems like they'd be among the first to go. No weapons, no advanced warning, no communications between locations, no fast vehicles, etc. At least in the Amish areas.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Your theory is dependent on a lot of assumptions that IT people will have unlimited access to food, unlimited access to transport and stockpiles, the ability to protect said caches before others come for them or zombies get you, etc. That's a lot of "this would solve all problems" as your underlying theory. Anyone who had reasonably unlimited access to water, food and security could just ride out the whole thing. Don't need to be IT people or even sentient at that point. If my cat had unlimited food, water and was in a secure facility it could outlive the zombies.
Now you're just being negative.
Of course there wouldn't be a boundless world of supplies etc or groups trying to take what I have.
That is where you have to have a community to be strong with / resolve any problems.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Your theory is dependent on a lot of assumptions that IT people will have unlimited access to food, unlimited access to transport and stockpiles, the ability to protect said caches before others come for them or zombies get you, etc. That's a lot of "this would solve all problems" as your underlying theory. Anyone who had reasonably unlimited access to water, food and security could just ride out the whole thing. Don't need to be IT people or even sentient at that point. If my cat had unlimited food, water and was in a secure facility it could outlive the zombies.
Now you're just being negative.
Of course there wouldn't be a boundless world of supplies etc or groups trying to take what I have.
That is where you have to have a community to be strong with / resolve any problems.
but the larger the community, the larger the food problem. I'm just saying that your theory of survival depends on basic assumptions that all survival needs are already met. You are skipping the hard parts that everyone struggles to overcome and just ignores that getting food, water and protection would be hard. and the bigger the group the easier protection gets but the harder food and water get.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
The Amish religion does not allow them to use cars, guns, lights, hydroponics, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
The Amish religion does not allow them to use cars, guns, lights, hydroponics, etc.
And they are very likely to choose to die rather than defend themselves. The Mennonites (at least a good portion of them) will defend themselves.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Your theory is dependent on a lot of assumptions that IT people will have unlimited access to food, unlimited access to transport and stockpiles, the ability to protect said caches before others come for them or zombies get you, etc. That's a lot of "this would solve all problems" as your underlying theory. Anyone who had reasonably unlimited access to water, food and security could just ride out the whole thing. Don't need to be IT people or even sentient at that point. If my cat had unlimited food, water and was in a secure facility it could outlive the zombies.
Now you're just being negative.
Of course there wouldn't be a boundless world of supplies etc or groups trying to take what I have.
That is where you have to have a community to be strong with / resolve any problems.
but the larger the community, the larger the food problem. I'm just saying that your theory of survival depends on basic assumptions that all survival needs are already met. You are skipping the hard parts that everyone struggles to overcome and just ignores that getting food, water and protection would be hard. and the bigger the group the easier protection gets but the harder food and water get.
Valid point.
Lets for example take the prison scenario.
I'm drawing a blank on the name of the prison I just saw, but it had 25 foot concrete exterior walls. Without confirmation, you could assume the weak point is the entry gates.
So those would need to be fortified.
What that leaves you with is a large area to grow food / livestock.
Presumably you could dig a well on the grounds as well.
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There are a few IT people I know that are very much into the survivalist stuff. I grew up that way. I could teach someone how live off the land and be completely electric free etc. That's how I grew up. I HATE gutting animals and cleaning fish. But I do know how and would if I had to.
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Obviously you have prisoners to deal with.
Whom likely would cause trouble with all of the easily thought up issues.
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@Minion-Queen said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
There are a few IT people I know that are very much into the survivalist stuff. I grew up that way. I could teach someone how live off the land and be completely electric free etc. That's how I grew up. I HATE gutting animals and cleaning fish. But I do know how and would if I had to.
Which if you could trap animals or fish, you would presumably try to breed those animals for continues food stocks.
Be it cattle (a ton of resources) or whatever else.
In Rochester there are actually fish breeding stocks only 15 minutes from where I am today.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
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@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
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@Minion-Queen said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
This is where you barter with Mennonite and Amish areas. You kill zombies in exchange for food/seeds, and training if you don't have it. They will need protection as many of them will not know or be willing to do much to protect themselves. And the Mennonites at least would be thrilled to teach.
This would be assuming that they don't get wiped out before we can get to them.
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The trouble with being solo is you'd have all of the same obstacles to overcome, food water shelter as the group. Except you're alone.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
Only in your end of the country. Those communities don't really exist anywhere else in significant numbers.
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@dafyre said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
This is where you barter with Mennonite and Amish areas. You kill zombies in exchange for food/seeds, and training if you don't have it. They will need protection as many of them will not know or be willing to do much to protect themselves. And the Mennonites at least would be thrilled to teach.
This would be assuming that they don't get wiped out before we can get to them.
But this is more likely that they are alive and well. The region is so dispersed that there would certainly have to be a large group alive somewhere.
I would expect the more modern person (city-folk) to be gone long before the dispersed religious folk.
