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    Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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    • scottalanmiller
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 last edited by

      @DustinB3403 said in Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records:

      Although I think 3 weeks is a rather fast turn around for this to be announced.

      My question would be, how and why didn't lockheed martin have a backup for this. Or was a backup deemed not worthwhile?

      Either way heads should roll.

      Could be as simple as USAF didn't require it so LM wasn't responsible for it.

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      • nick1818
        nick1818 last edited by

        Computer crash or somebody "crashed" it. We are talking about 100,000 investigations.

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        • momurda
          momurda last edited by

          Why is the USAF even outsourcing this job? Do they not have a sysadmin? Oh right, the entire DoD is overpaid 3rd party contractors now, from the likes of Lockheed, Siemens, GA, GD, SRA International and various other nincompoops.

          12 years. In the last 12 years Lockheed has been paid hundreds of billions of dollars by you and me and 300 million other people in the US. This is what happens.
          Lockheed gets paid no matter whether the solution works or not. The USAF cant cancel contracts with Lockheed, who else is going to do it? Boeing? doubt it, theyre too busy getting paid gobs of money to build refueling tankers and various other machines for killing people.
          Not only should Lockheed lose most of their DoD contracts, the USAF personnel who have been bribed for decades to choose them for bids should probably be put on trial.

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          • Dashrender
            Dashrender last edited by

            I don't understand the number of contractors involved in our military operations any more other than a way to play the shell game with money.

            i.e. contractors don't count on the military budget, so they can appear to be shrinking the military budget while just shifting it to some other line item and actually paying more.

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            • momurda
              momurda last edited by

              Right, Dashrender, they do it so they dont have to pay for their own USAF IT people, or pay USAF IT people a wage worth working for. But at the same time, they pay so much money to these contractors are they actually saving money? Im not so sure, esp with the intangible costs like this situation right here.

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              • coliver
                coliver last edited by

                You make it sound like it is all about saving money... when a hex nut (by itself) costs 50-60$ then you know you have some corruption happening.

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                • Dashrender
                  Dashrender @momurda last edited by

                  @momurda said in Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records:

                  Right, Dashrender, they do it so they dont have to pay for their own USAF IT people, or pay USAF IT people a wage worth working for. But at the same time, they pay so much money to these contractors are they actually saving money? Im not so sure, esp with the intangible costs like this situation right here.

                  No they are not, they can't be!

                  My brother made 20K in the military, got out became a private contractor doing the same job fro $120K.. WTF? Why aren't they just keeping military people and paying them say $60K or $80K.. whatever.

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                  • travisdh1
                    travisdh1 @Dashrender last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records:

                    @momurda said in Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records:

                    Right, Dashrender, they do it so they dont have to pay for their own USAF IT people, or pay USAF IT people a wage worth working for. But at the same time, they pay so much money to these contractors are they actually saving money? Im not so sure, esp with the intangible costs like this situation right here.

                    No they are not, they can't be!

                    My brother made 20K in the military, got out became a private contractor doing the same job fro $120K.. WTF? Why aren't they just keeping military people and paying them say $60K or $80K.. whatever.

                    @Dashrender That's how the US government "cuts" budgets.

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                    • thwr
                      thwr @scottalanmiller last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records:

                      In addition to not taking backups....

                      Lockheed took two weeks to notify the USAF. USAF took another week to notify Congress. Three weeks of hiding in shame?

                      It takes some time to choose someone who will be promoted for this.

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records:

                        @momurda said in Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records:

                        Right, Dashrender, they do it so they dont have to pay for their own USAF IT people, or pay USAF IT people a wage worth working for. But at the same time, they pay so much money to these contractors are they actually saving money? Im not so sure, esp with the intangible costs like this situation right here.

                        No they are not, they can't be!

                        My brother made 20K in the military, got out became a private contractor doing the same job fro $120K.. WTF? Why aren't they just keeping military people and paying them say $60K or $80K.. whatever.

                        Not how it works for IT. I've worked for Lockheed, there are plenty of VERY low paying jobs there. Not all, of course, but lots.

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