BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer
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@FATeknollogee said:
@Dashrender said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@FATeknollogee said:
Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
Similar to Starwind in the Windows world
XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.
If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?
Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?
Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.
Let's try this again:
In Windows, you can take multiple boxes, add Starwind or Datacore = hyperconverged using local storage (no SAN needed).
How do you do the same thing with XS?
DRBD, Gluster or CEPH are all part of the base solution. XS simply lacks GUI interfaces to them.
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@Dashrender said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@FATeknollogee said:
Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
Similar to Starwind in the Windows world
XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.
If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?
Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?
Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.
Single shared storage? Better not let Mr @scottalanmiller hear you say that
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@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@Dashrender said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@FATeknollogee said:
Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
Similar to Starwind in the Windows world
XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.
If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?
Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?
Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.
Let's try this again:
In Windows, you can take multiple boxes, add Starwind or Datacore = hyperconverged using local storage (no SAN needed).
How do you do the same thing with XS?
DRBD, Gluster or CEPH are all part of the base solution. XS simply lacks GUI interfaces to them.
Thx for the update.
DRBD, Gluster or CEPH are all CLI only?
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@FATeknollogee said:
DRBD, Gluster or CEPH are all CLI only?
Well I've never checked, but they are definitely CLI only where XS is concerned. I would never use a GUI for any of them personally, so not something I have investigated. I'm a CLI person. But I think if they had popular GUIs I'd have heard. So I'm going to tentatively say that no, they are CLI only.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@Dashrender said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@FATeknollogee said:
Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?
Similar to Starwind in the Windows world
XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.
If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?
Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?
Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.
Single shared storage? Better not let Mr @scottalanmiller say that
eh? I didn't say SAN. StarWinds, etc are just that, a single shared storage.
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@BRRABill said:
OK, next question.
How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?
2 commands you could use to copy a file over to your xenserver box
# wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1234567/file.txt # scp [email protected]:/location/on-remote-server/file.txt /xenserver/path/ -
@larsen161 said:
@BRRABill said:
OK, next question.
How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?
2 commands you could use to copy a file over to your xenserver box
# wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1234567/file.txt # scp [email protected]:/location/on-remote-server/file.txt /xenserver/path/And of course standard "looks like Windows" tools like WinSCP and Filezilla work great too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
It's exactly the same, just restore it and look at the console.
"CONSOLE" ... that is what I was missing.
The way Hyper-V does it must just be a console, not RDP.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Just share a folder from your desktop that you are running XenCenter on. Same as sharing files anywhere in the Windows world. Super simple, all Windows standard tools.
Out of curiosity, how do you do this with the XenServer. Do you set up an account for it to connect to your share?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yes, that is the proper way to do it both from a XenServer and from a StorageCraft perspective.
Why is that, exactly?
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@scottalanmiller said:
And of course standard "looks like Windows" tools like WinSCP and Filezilla work great too.
Yes, I have no desire to move to the text based world.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Just share a folder from your desktop that you are running XenCenter on. Same as sharing files anywhere in the Windows world. Super simple, all Windows standard tools.
Out of curiosity, how do you do this with the XenServer. Do you set up an account for it to connect to your share?
Haven't done this recently but I think you just share it, and put in the creds in XenCenter.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Haven't done this recently but I think you just share it, and put in the creds in XenCenter.
What creds, though? Your user account? Do you create an account for the XenServer?
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yes, that is the proper way to do it both from a XenServer and from a StorageCraft perspective.
Why is that, exactly?
Because restoring to specific platform targets rather than generic isn't practical or purposeful. Why import from a overly specific process for one platform when you can have a uniform process for any? If you were purely on just one platform, then it would be six of one, half a dozen of another, but you are not and few people are.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Haven't done this recently but I think you just share it, and put in the creds in XenCenter.
What creds, though? Your user account? Do you create an account for the XenServer?
That would be up to you and is purely a Windows question.
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@scottalanmiller said:
That would be up to you and is purely a Windows question.
I am looking for ML best practice!
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Really pretty trivial, it's a read only ISO store from your desktop.
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BTW: last night I found there IS a way in XenCenter to force it to check for updates and then force an install.
From the ISO on their webpage, there are probably 25-30 updates needed to my fresh install.
Strangely, most of them needed a reboot which I thought was weird.
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@BRRABill said:
BTW: last night I found there IS a way in XenCenter to force it to check for updates and then force an install.
From the ISO on their webpage, there are probably 25-30 updates needed to my fresh install.
Strangely, most of them needed a reboot which I thought was weird.
sooooo.... how did you force it?
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@Dashrender said:
sooooo.... how did you force it?
First, if you want it to check for new version of XenServer, you have to go into TOOLS and OPTIONS and UPDATES and select that box.
To check for and install updates, go to the Notifications tab. Then go to UPDATES. Then click on REFRESH. It will give you a list of the updates, and an option to DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL.
I've only been able to install them one at a time.
QUESTION:
It is generally recommended to install every update they offer?
