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    • KellyK
      Kelly @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @BRRABill said:

      @Dashrender said:

      Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

      That a limited version of Office apps though.

      Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

      The set of features available to the online version, save concurrent editing, is a subset of the local install. To most, the semantics would point to the online version being a crippled version of the local install.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        Or are you saying the "Office Online" they give you in the $5 is the same they give you in the higher priced package that includes desktop installs?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

          What I mean is that I also have the $5 plan, and the online versions they give you are limited in what they can do.

          For example, you can't freeze panes in Excel. You have to use desktop Excel for that.

          Well sure - but as Scott said - they are their own product. Sure they share the name Excel - but it's Online Excel, versus locally installed Excel.

          and those features will come, it's just going to take time.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            Well sure - but as Scott said - they are their own product. Sure they share the name Excel - but it's Online Excel, versus locally installed Excel.

            and those features will come, it's just going to take time.

            I thought they had two different versions.

            A "free" version that had less features, a a version that came with the desktop-install packages that was basically the same as the desktop versions.

            This is wrong?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Or are you saying the "Office Online" they give you in the $5 is the same they give you in the higher priced package that includes desktop installs?

              yep, saying that too. The online versions are the same no matter what package you buy that includes them.

              There's no crippled version of the online apps.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                yep, saying that too. The online versions are the same no matter what package you buy that includes them.

                There's no crippled version of the online apps.

                Ohhhhhhhhhh.

                Well that's dumb.

                My goal to be ML-compliant and get away from local stuff is getting harder and harder each day!

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                • brianlittlejohnB
                  brianlittlejohn
                  last edited by

                  What I like about O365 subscription is you get to license Office Apps per User rather than per device.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    My goal to be ML-compliant and get away from local stuff is getting harder and harder each day!

                    I'll drink to that

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                      • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                      • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                      • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                      • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @MattSpeller
                        last edited by

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        I'll drink to that

                        Good thing I kept my self-encrypting drive.

                        (Starts another flame war. Quietly retreats.)

                        I kid, I kid.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @MattSpeller
                          last edited by

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                          • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                          • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                          • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                          • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

                          All I have on Office 365 is the Office Pro Plus plan. It only includes the Local Apps, no storage, no exchange, no sharepoint. You have to login with the O365 credentials the first install, then once every 30 days it needs internet access to verify the license

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @brianlittlejohn
                            last edited by

                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                            • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                            • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                            • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                            • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

                            All I have on Office 365 is the Office Pro Plus plan. It only includes the Local Apps, no storage, no exchange, no sharepoint. You have to login with the O365 credentials the first install, then once every 30 days it needs internet access to verify the license

                            Wicked, that's what we want.

                            I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

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                            • brianlittlejohnB
                              brianlittlejohn @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                              • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                              • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                              • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                              • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

                              All I have on Office 365 is the Office Pro Plus plan. It only includes the Local Apps, no storage, no exchange, no sharepoint. You have to login with the O365 credentials the first install, then once every 30 days it needs internet access to verify the license

                              Wicked, that's what we want.

                              I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

                              Yea, since it is a subscription service, they have to have some way to revoke the license once cancelled.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                Wicked, that's what we want.

                                I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

                                If you want none of the online component ... why not just get a physical copy?

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  Wicked, that's what we want.

                                  I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

                                  If you want none of the online component ... why not just get a physical copy?

                                  The big benefit for me is per user licensing rather than per device.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    yep, saying that too. The online versions are the same no matter what package you buy that includes them.

                                    There's no crippled version of the online apps.

                                    Ohhhhhhhhhh.

                                    Well that's dumb.

                                    My goal to be ML-compliant and get away from local stuff is getting harder and harder each day!

                                    Which is what exactly?

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                                      last edited by

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      Wicked, that's what we want.

                                      I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

                                      If you want none of the online component ... why not just get a physical copy?

                                      The big benefit for me is per user licensing rather than per device.

                                      Exactly.

                                      So the choices are
                                      O365 user licensed (5 computers and 5 mobile devices) or
                                      VL or FPP licensed per device.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        Wicked, that's what we want.

                                        I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

                                        If you want none of the online component ... why not just get a physical copy?

                                        The big benefit for me is per user licensing rather than per device.

                                        Exactly.

                                        So the choices are
                                        O365 user licensed (5 computers and 5 mobile devices) or
                                        VL or FPP licensed per device.

                                        Exactly

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          O365 user licensed (5 computers and 5 mobile devices) or

                                          And do companies typically allow employees to install on their home devices? Or is that a no-no?

                                          Say if they really only needed 1 at work.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            There is no versus. O365 is subscription licensing from MS. Office 2013 & Current 2016 etc is available via volume pricing, the "card" retail way or subscription from O365. All the same product, just three different ways to pay.

                                            FTFY

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