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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

      Correct. Nothing like that.

      That does exist. But that's a different thing. If you get Office 365 E3 (Hosted Exchange, Skype for Business, SharePoint, ODFB and Office) then you get both on premises Office 2016 as well as the Sharepoint-powered Office Online. So yes, there is something like Google's online offering, but it is not a "versus" situation. In any situation where you can get the online version, you canget the on premises as well. So it isn't "this or that" it is "this or this AND that".

      FTFY

      Can you get it without the on premises?

      yeah, maybe not in the E series, but the SMB series yes.. I do in fact through NTG.

      Oh, did not know that. I never look at those and was not aware that they added that option.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

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        • Deleted74295D
          Deleted74295 Banned
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          Yeah office online is in all of them, Exchange Online is the only one where online versions of Office are missing.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

            That a limited version of Office apps though.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              @Dashrender said:

              Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

              That a limited version of Office apps though.

              Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

                What I mean is that I also have the $5 plan, and the online versions they give you are limited in what they can do.

                For example, you can't freeze panes in Excel. You have to use desktop Excel for that.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter said:

                  Yeah office online is in all of them, Exchange Online is the only one where online versions of Office are missing.

                  Actually the Office Pro Plus package also does not include the Online Apps either.

                  Which reminds me...

                  Why the hell does MS include the Office Pro Plus only option in their list of O365 offerings, but purely hosted Exchange for $4/m/u is not - hmm.. because they don't really want to sell it? they really want to sell the package only deals? hmmm.

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

                    That a limited version of Office apps though.

                    Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

                    The set of features available to the online version, save concurrent editing, is a subset of the local install. To most, the semantics would point to the online version being a crippled version of the local install.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Or are you saying the "Office Online" they give you in the $5 is the same they give you in the higher priced package that includes desktop installs?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

                        What I mean is that I also have the $5 plan, and the online versions they give you are limited in what they can do.

                        For example, you can't freeze panes in Excel. You have to use desktop Excel for that.

                        Well sure - but as Scott said - they are their own product. Sure they share the name Excel - but it's Online Excel, versus locally installed Excel.

                        and those features will come, it's just going to take time.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          Well sure - but as Scott said - they are their own product. Sure they share the name Excel - but it's Online Excel, versus locally installed Excel.

                          and those features will come, it's just going to take time.

                          I thought they had two different versions.

                          A "free" version that had less features, a a version that came with the desktop-install packages that was basically the same as the desktop versions.

                          This is wrong?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Or are you saying the "Office Online" they give you in the $5 is the same they give you in the higher priced package that includes desktop installs?

                            yep, saying that too. The online versions are the same no matter what package you buy that includes them.

                            There's no crippled version of the online apps.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              yep, saying that too. The online versions are the same no matter what package you buy that includes them.

                              There's no crippled version of the online apps.

                              Ohhhhhhhhhh.

                              Well that's dumb.

                              My goal to be ML-compliant and get away from local stuff is getting harder and harder each day!

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                              • brianlittlejohnB
                                brianlittlejohn
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                                What I like about O365 subscription is you get to license Office Apps per User rather than per device.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  My goal to be ML-compliant and get away from local stuff is getting harder and harder each day!

                                  I'll drink to that

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                                    • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                                    • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                                    • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                                    • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      I'll drink to that

                                      Good thing I kept my self-encrypting drive.

                                      (Starts another flame war. Quietly retreats.)

                                      I kid, I kid.

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                                      • brianlittlejohnB
                                        brianlittlejohn @MattSpeller
                                        last edited by

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                                        • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                                        • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                                        • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                                        • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

                                        All I have on Office 365 is the Office Pro Plus plan. It only includes the Local Apps, no storage, no exchange, no sharepoint. You have to login with the O365 credentials the first install, then once every 30 days it needs internet access to verify the license

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @brianlittlejohn
                                          last edited by

                                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                                          • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                                          • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                                          • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                                          • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

                                          All I have on Office 365 is the Office Pro Plus plan. It only includes the Local Apps, no storage, no exchange, no sharepoint. You have to login with the O365 credentials the first install, then once every 30 days it needs internet access to verify the license

                                          Wicked, that's what we want.

                                          I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

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                                          • brianlittlejohnB
                                            brianlittlejohn @MattSpeller
                                            last edited by

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            Alright - y'all are awesome, but I need a round up for all this info.

                                            • We have users working with limited or no internet often. What version of O365 comes with local installs?

                                            • Are there any cloud storage components I should be aware of? (our data can't leave Canada for reasons)

                                            • If the online version does send data to hell and gone is it possible to have only a local install and block the online logins?

                                            • Can you get a version that's local only and save money? We host our own exchange ducks to avoid incomming abuse

                                            All I have on Office 365 is the Office Pro Plus plan. It only includes the Local Apps, no storage, no exchange, no sharepoint. You have to login with the O365 credentials the first install, then once every 30 days it needs internet access to verify the license

                                            Wicked, that's what we want.

                                            I'm concerned about the 30 day call home to the mothership thing. I will need to consult with others about that.

                                            Yea, since it is a subscription service, they have to have some way to revoke the license once cancelled.

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