Analysis of Locky ransomware
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@Dashrender said:
The problem is the local syncing. Those files will act and appear just like normal files on the endpoint, and be subject to this problem.
I can think of no way around this on local files.
It's getting to the point where I am going to have to cave and agree 100% with SAM that the only safe thing is having NO local files.
But that just causes so many issues, like backup. I'd love to just throw everything in OneDrive but then if I inadvertently overwrite something (or Microsoft inadvertently messes something up) I have some issues.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
The problem is the local syncing. Those files will act and appear just like normal files on the endpoint, and be subject to this problem.
I can think of no way around this on local files.
It's getting to the point where I am going to have to cave and agree 100% with SAM that the only safe thing is having NO local files.
But that just causes so many issues, like backup. I'd love to just throw everything in OneDrive but then if I inadvertently overwrite something (or Microsoft inadvertently messes something up) I have some issues.
You still need backup. Having files offsite does not resolve that issue.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
The use of things like ownCould and SharePoint put a huge dent in these types of things. If you have versioning turned on in both, you really mitigate the problem altogether in those spots.
With SharePoint, only with Microsoft files.
eh? you can store anything you want in SharePoint. and versioning should work just fine with those too - it just won't be incremental, it will be whole files.
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Ha maybe this will put an end to recruiting agencies wanting you to send your resume as a Word file.
I spoke with one recently who wanted me to send my resume as a Word file so she could "copy the information out of it." The resume she had was a PDF..... I don't trust them if they want a docx file.
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@JaredBusch said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
The problem is the local syncing. Those files will act and appear just like normal files on the endpoint, and be subject to this problem.
I can think of no way around this on local files.
It's getting to the point where I am going to have to cave and agree 100% with SAM that the only safe thing is having NO local files.
But that just causes so many issues, like backup. I'd love to just throw everything in OneDrive but then if I inadvertently overwrite something (or Microsoft inadvertently messes something up) I have some issues.
You still need backup. Having files offsite does not resolve that issue.
Just tossing this out there - Scott's suggestion isn't about offsite files, it's just about not being local on the machine.
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I'm wondering though - do most people use ownCloud (OK JB I can learn) with synced folders? Does ownCloud have versioning?
Using sync'ed folders like OneDrive or ODfB remove the safety that those solutions otherwise provide.
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@Dashrender said:
you can store anything you want in SharePoint. and versioning should work just fine with those too - it just won't be incremental, it will be whole files.
Does SharePoint do versioning of non-Microsoft files?
For example, if you are editing a text file or picture, or any non-Microsoft files?
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@JaredBusch said:
You still need backup. Having files offsite does not resolve that issue.
That's where the confusion still lies for me.
How are people backing up their data that is solely in OneDrive or Amazon Drive, etc..
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@Dashrender said:
Just tossing this out there - Scott's suggestion isn't about offsite files, it's just about not being local on the machine.
Well then where would these "non local" files be stored?
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@BRRABill said:
@JaredBusch said:
You still need backup. Having files offsite does not resolve that issue.
That's where the confusion still lies for me.
How are people backing up their data that is solely in OneDrive or Amazon Drive, etc..
Well those two options specifically don't have promises from the vendor for backups - but you could probably sweat talk them into restores.
ODfB on the other hand is SharePoint, and assuming we're talking about O365, then MS will do restores from the backups they take.
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I wonder if there are services out there that do backups of online services. I bet there are.
OFF TO GOOGLE!
I know, for example, that Datto does Office365 (and other cloud services) backups. But I wonder if there is anything for straight OneDrive. Take local totally out of the equation.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Just tossing this out there - Scott's suggestion isn't about offsite files, it's just about not being local on the machine.
Well then where would these "non local" files be stored?
Where ever you want them - on a LAN based SharePoint server or ownCloud server. They wouldn't be offsite, just not local to the machine in question.
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@Dashrender said:
Where ever you want them - on a LAN based SharePoint server or ownCloud server. They wouldn't be offsite, just not local to the machine in question.
Ah, I see.
I guess I am thinking more of the individual user.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Where ever you want them - on a LAN based SharePoint server or ownCloud server. They wouldn't be offsite, just not local to the machine in question.
Ah, I see.
I guess I am thinking more of the individual user.
In that case, correct OneDrive for a home user is not a backup - it's simply online storage.
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
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For your ownCloud server, you would just back that one up like usual. Single place to back stuff up.
Plus, if you do get whoopsied, you can restore previous file versions from within the ownCloud web interface.
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@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
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The issue with backups is you need to know when you were infected. We have 14 days worth of backups. If I don't know I'm infected by the 14th day then the backup will contain the virus as well. You'll have less encrypted files but hope that nothing extremely crucial was affected.
I actually just send out a notice about this company-wide right before you posted. Ransomware is annoying.
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@dafyre said:
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
If there is such a thing.
Google brought up a few places, but none of them look particularly legit.
I can't do it right now but I'll look into it some more. Or maybe someone knows and will chime in.
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@BRRABill said:
@dafyre said:
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
If there is such a thing.
Google brought up a few places, but none of them look particularly legit.
I can't do it right now but I'll look into it some more. Or maybe someone knows and will chime in.
Third party service to do backups of what?
