XenServer Backup
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@scottalanmiller said:
But there is no question: All XO features are available for free.
If you don't use the appliance and install it by hand. That's a big IF.
There website points you to the appliance and it isn't clear that there is a different in the appliance.....
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@anonymous said:
This is VERY unclear. Where are instructions to install the "real" free version?
probably better to say, the "fully featured" free one as both versions are real versions and both are free.
Also, since the installation of the fully featured one is so simplistic why even offer the limited edition free one? It does nothing but frustrate people and make something appear to be less than it is.
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@anonymous I also have a topic on the mangolassi.it forums as well as several people have uploaded several containerized versions for simple install into Xen Server...
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@Dashrender said:
@anonymous said:
This is VERY unclear. Where are instructions to install the "real" free version?
probably better to say, the "fully featured" free one as both versions are real versions and both are free.
Also, since the installation of the fully featured one is so simplistic why even offer the limited edition free one? It does nothing but frustrate people and make something appear to be less than it is.
It has a 15 day trial support. So if you want to upgrade within that window you can just use the same image. It will also update to newer versions unlike the open source one.
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WARNING: we don't make support for this manual installation. We cannot guarantee anything if used in production. Use it at your own risks.
They should offer the Premium free to IT Pros for home use only, no support. They we can test this stuff at home and buy for work.....
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WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
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@anonymous said:
WARNING: we don't make support for this manual installation. We cannot guarantee anything if used in production. Use it at your own risks.
They should offer the Premium free to IT Pros for home use only, no support. They we can test this stuff at home and buy for work.....
That's essentially what they did, but you can use it at work if you want. You just need to install the dependencies and turn it on.
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@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
Just use the version they tell you to
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@johnhooks said:
hat's essentially what they did, but you can use it at work if you want. You just need to
But why not give us the appliance?
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@johnhooks said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
Just use the version they tell you to
That's find, but what about updates?
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@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
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@anonymous said:
@johnhooks said:
hat's essentially what they did, but you can use it at work if you want. You just need to
But why not give us the appliance?
They're a business, they want to make money.
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@dafyre said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
Oh, I do trust myself, but the XOA seems so much easier.
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@anonymous said:
@dafyre said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
Oh, I do trust myself, but the XOA seems so much easier.
You pay for convenience... that's true in a lot of industries including IT.
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@anonymous said:
@johnhooks said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
Just use the version they tell you to
That's find, but what about updates?
Updates to node?
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@anonymous said:
@johnhooks said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
Just use the version they tell you to
That's find, but what about updates?
Don't update until they are ready for the new version. Check your OS to see if it provides a supported version that is compatible and then it shouldn't be an issue.
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@anonymous said:
@dafyre said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
Oh, I do trust myself, but the XOA seems so much easier.
Well of course, that's the point of it. All of the work, even of an install, done for you PLUS an easy, predicable install for them to support. Easier but not free or as flexible.
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@scottalanmiller I assume CentOS 7 would be a good choice?
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@DustinB3403 has a guide on here of how to install it.
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So here is my complaint and then I am done bitching. (Well at least about this.)
They offer 2 free versions, and this isn't clear on there website.
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