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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      So with YUM going to the wayside (for whatever the reasons may be), DNF is coming in as a replacement.

      Has anyone cut over yet, and if so any good / bad / mixed experiences?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        So with YUM going to the wayside (for whatever the reasons may be), DNF is coming in as a replacement.

        Has anyone cut over yet, and if so any good / bad / mixed experiences?

        Isn't DNF YUM? I could have sworn that DNF was a fairly recent fork of YUM and the only major difference is how the API works.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Not quiet sure other than it is a fork of YUM, that doesn't have all of the issues of YUM

          This is from a co-worker saying this... So I figured I'd ask.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre
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            I used it with Fedora 22 on my Laptop. It seems to be fine to me . Never gave me any headaches installing software or anything... I say go for it!

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
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              Other than typing sudo yum install every time on Fedora 22 and it giving me the annoying message that it uses dnf, I haven't experienced any problems.

              I did notice you can't do dnf localinstall, you have to do dnf ./whatever_package.rpm

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks Yeah... You can also dnf install url://to.mypackage.com/mypackage.rpm and it will install without you having to go and download it by hand first. (It has been a while since I tried Fedora, so I don't know if you could do that with Yum or not)

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  @johnhooks Yeah... You can also dnf install url://to.mypackage.com/mypackage.rpm and it will install without you having to go and download it by hand first. (It has been a while since I tried Fedora, so I don't know if you could do that with Yum or not)

                  Nice! Learn something new every day.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said:

                    @johnhooks Yeah... You can also dnf install url://to.mypackage.com/mypackage.rpm and it will install without you having to go and download it by hand first. (It has been a while since I tried Fedora, so I don't know if you could do that with Yum or not)

                    That is nice!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      So with YUM going to the wayside (for whatever the reasons may be), DNF is coming in as a replacement.

                      Has anyone cut over yet, and if so any good / bad / mixed experiences?

                      Have not cut over yet but plan to soon.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said:

                        @johnhooks Yeah... You can also dnf install url://to.mypackage.com/mypackage.rpm and it will install without you having to go and download it by hand first. (It has been a while since I tried Fedora, so I don't know if you could do that with Yum or not)

                        RPM does that natively.

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                        • Reid CooperR
                          Reid Cooper
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                          I'm pretty sure that YUM has always been able to do that too. Just exposing the functionality of RPM underneath, I would assume.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller When installing a package from RPM, if the dependencies are missing, it fails, doesn't it? With DNF, it will install those dependencies for you if they are in the list of installed repos on your computer.

                            NB: Am I the only person who saw DNF and my first thought was did not finish?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said:

                              @scottalanmiller When installing a package from RPM, if the dependencies are missing, it fails, doesn't it? With DNF, it will install those dependencies for you if they are in the list of installed repos on your computer.

                              NB: Am I the only person who saw DNF and my first thought was did not finish?

                              RPM doesn't do any management. YUM and DNF automate RPM to handle dependencies.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Just making sure that hand't changed... It has been a very long time since I got my feet wet with Fedora. I'm impressed with v22. It works seriously nicely on my laptop.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @scottalanmiller Just making sure that hand't changed... It has been a very long time since I got my feet wet with Fedora. I'm impressed with v22. It works seriously nicely on my laptop.

                                  If that changed, YUM and DNF would go away. 🙂 YUM and DNF are literally RPM changing. No one wants RPM itself to handle that stuff, that's for another tool. You can safely assume RPM is what RPM is. It works perfectly and just needs more automation on top, which is provided already.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre said:

                                    @scottalanmiller Just making sure that hand't changed... It has been a very long time since I got my feet wet with Fedora. I'm impressed with v22. It works seriously nicely on my laptop.

                                    KDE connect is awesome, have you played with that at all?

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre
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                                      Not yet... I still haven't even figured out what the default desktop is... (It feels like Gnome 3 to me).

                                      Whta is the KDE Connect?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        Not yet... I still haven't even figured out what the default desktop is... (It feels like Gnome 3 to me).

                                        Whta is the KDE Connect?

                                        Fedora default has always been Gnome (first 2, then 3.) But KDE has always been fully supported.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          Not yet... I still haven't even figured out what the default desktop is... (It feels like Gnome 3 to me).

                                          Whta is the KDE Connect?

                                          I can't answer for IOS, but for android it will display notifications on the desktop from your phone. You can also transfer files, control media, and use your phone as a mouse and keyboard.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            That's awesome, okay now I need to see if that works on iOS. Maybe I need full time Linux desktop, that's an option for me now.

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