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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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      @obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

      In this city, someone gets shot an average of about once per hour.

      Obviously the answer here is more guns.

      Lawful gun ownership by responsible owners would deter a lot of gang/generic gun violence.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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        @obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

        In this city, someone gets shot an average of about once per hour.

        Obviously the answer here is more guns.

        The Onion is always good for this.
        https://www.theonion.com/city-of-chicago-working-around-clock-to-clear-18-inches-1819579485
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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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          @jaredbusch The amount of scrap value there would actually make the city of Chicago worth moving to, if only for the scrap metal. . .

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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            @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @jaredbusch The amount of scrap value there would actually make the city of Chicago worth moving to, if only for the scrap metal. . .

            It's amazing that all those hot casings can't melt the snow!

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @jaredbusch The amount of scrap value there would actually make the city of Chicago worth moving to, if only for the scrap metal. . .

              It's amazing that all those hot casings can't melt the snow!

              New school policy now in effect: teachers in Chicago take guns from students like phones and give them back at the end of class.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                @obsolesce as if terrorism or a school shooting is out of the norm . . I'd expect the Security at public schools to hand out more guns than anything. . .

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @Obsolesce
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                  @obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @jaredbusch The amount of scrap value there would actually make the city of Chicago worth moving to, if only for the scrap metal. . .

                  It's amazing that all those hot casings can't melt the snow!

                  New school policy now in effect: teachers in Chicago take guns from students like phones and give them back at the end of class.

                  ... but because of the school's insurance policy, the teachers aren't allowed to use the students' guns to stop an active shooter...

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                    @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @obsolesce as if terrorism or a school shooting is out of the norm . . I'd expect the Security at public schools to hand out more guns than anything. . .

                    Chicago teachers watch the late night news to see who won't be in class the next day.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                      @obsolesce exactly and that's a lot of the reality of the situation. Schools should be a "safe place" but around the school can't be controlled in the same ways.

                      I'd be willing to bet that 99% of the violence is due to issues that arise in school and are "handled on the street".

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @obsolesce exactly and that's a lot of the reality of the situation. Schools should be a "safe place" but around the school can't be controlled in the same ways.

                        I'd be willing to bet that 99% of the violence is due to issues that arise in school and are "handled on the street".

                        If only everyone on the street had guns... problem solved.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          In other news a NY Lawmaker wants to make it a crime to call the police on a person of color who isn't actually doing anything illegal and charge the caller with a hate crime.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            In other news a NY Lawmaker wants to make it a crime to call the police on a person of color who isn't actually doing anything illegal and charge the caller with a hate crime.

                            Isn't harassment already a crime?

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              In other news a NY Lawmaker wants to make it a crime to call the police on a person of color who isn't actually doing anything illegal and charge the caller with a hate crime.

                              Isn't harassment already a crime?

                              Yes, but maybe there are too many loopholes unless that is specifically stated in the law.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller The article pretty much sums up as:

                                You had better see a person actively committing a crime, robbery, murder etc before you call the police. Not just suspicious activity that "you don't like".

                                He apparently had the police called on him, while he was campaigning for reelection or some such activity.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                  @obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  In other news a NY Lawmaker wants to make it a crime to call the police on a person of color who isn't actually doing anything illegal and charge the caller with a hate crime.

                                  Isn't harassment already a crime?

                                  Yes, but maybe there are too many loopholes unless that is specifically stated in the law.

                                  they should remove the loopholes rather than making specific racist laws.

                                  It's like how in NY distracted driving was already illegal, but THE they added texting laws and texting exceptions... because they weren't able to determine if texting WAS a distraction.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                    @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller The article pretty much sums up as:

                                    You had better see a person actively committing a crime, robbery, murder etc before you call the police. Not just suspicious activity that "you don't like".

                                    He apparently had the police called on him, while he was campaigning for reelection or some such activity.

                                    Right, but you just need a general harassment law for that.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      Which what this law will do, is actually discourage people from ever calling the police against any person of color (which this is a bit reverse-racist) even if they do enfact commit a crime because the person will be concerned with possibly being labeled a racist for calling the police on suspicious activity.

                                      I guess "See something, Say something" means "see something, just STFU and go back to your popcorn"

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Which what this law will do, is actually discourage people from ever calling the police against any person of color (which this is a bit reverse-racist) even if they do enfact commit a crime because the person will be concerned with possibly being labeled a racist for calling the police on suspicious activity.

                                        I guess "See something, Say something" means "see something, just STFU and go back to your popcorn"

                                        Right, because it means unless they commit a crime that you can prove.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Which what this law will do, is actually discourage people from ever calling the police against any person of color (which this is a bit reverse-racist) even if they do enfact commit a crime because the person will be concerned with possibly being labeled a racist for calling the police on suspicious activity.

                                          I guess "See something, Say something" means "see something, just STFU and go back to your popcorn"

                                          Right, because it means unless they commit a crime that you can prove.

                                          It's not on the caller to have to prove, that is what the courts and police are for.

                                          Without concerned citizens (regardless of any scenario) a lot of crime would never be solved. No witnesses here (because they're afraid of being labeled a racist).

                                          What if I see a person popping a window open at 2AM across the street from me. I now have to be concerned that if I call the police (and the person does actually live there) that I'd be labeled a racist.

                                          Rather than the police going and checking to make sure that someone isn't being robbed or worse.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                                            @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            What if I see a person popping a window open at 2AM across the street from me. I now have to be concerned that if I call the police (and the person does actually live there) that I'd be labeled a racist.

                                            No, that's a reasonable concern in your example.

                                            They are talking about someone just waiting in a restaurant for someone or using the bathroom, not actively raising a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity....

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