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    • coliverC
      coliver
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      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/tough-may-holds-off-brexit-deal-after-irish-furore-idUSKBN1DY17G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

      I'm curious, why would enforcing the Irish border be that important? They are two "peaceful" states sharing a common border. It's probably one of those "we have to protect all of our borders" thing... Or does this go back to the whole Brexit thing not making a ton of sense.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
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        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/tough-may-holds-off-brexit-deal-after-irish-furore-idUSKBN1DY17G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

        I'm curious, why would enforcing the Irish border be that important? They are two "peaceful" states sharing a common border. It's probably one of those "we have to protect all of our borders" thing... Or does this go back to the whole Brexit thing not making a ton of sense.

        Think about the US and Canada. You can't just ignore the border between two countries, it has to be thought out and figured out VERY carefully. Remember, the UK is leaving the EU and the EU is what allows that to be an open border - because they share all information as to who is inside and who can be inside the border. Once the Brexit happens, Ireland could let in people that shouldn't be in the UK and vice versa. And they don't have to tell each other who is there. And you could cross that border to bypass customs and border controls.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/tough-may-holds-off-brexit-deal-after-irish-furore-idUSKBN1DY17G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

          I'm curious, why would enforcing the Irish border be that important? They are two "peaceful" states sharing a common border. It's probably one of those "we have to protect all of our borders" thing... Or does this go back to the whole Brexit thing not making a ton of sense.

          Think about the US and Canada. You can't just ignore the border between two countries, it has to be thought out and figured out VERY carefully. Remember, the UK is leaving the EU and the EU is what allows that to be an open border - because they share all information as to who is inside and who can be inside the border. Once the Brexit happens, Ireland could let in people that shouldn't be in the UK and vice versa. And they don't have to tell each other who is there. And you could cross that border to bypass customs and border controls.

          That's it. Thanks.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Things that you can do with an open border like that include bypassing all residency requirements and visa requirements for those countries. Arrive in Ireland, cross the border into the UK, stay forever because... you can claim that you've been in Ireland and are just visiting the UK. Or never pay taxes. All kinds of mayhem would occur if you had no way to know who was coming and going in your country.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
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              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

              https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/tough-may-holds-off-brexit-deal-after-irish-furore-idUSKBN1DY17G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

              I'm curious, why would enforcing the Irish border be that important? They are two "peaceful" states sharing a common border. It's probably one of those "we have to protect all of our borders" thing... Or does this go back to the whole Brexit thing not making a ton of sense.

              Think about the US and Canada. You can't just ignore the border between two countries, it has to be thought out and figured out VERY carefully. Remember, the UK is leaving the EU and the EU is what allows that to be an open border - because they share all information as to who is inside and who can be inside the border. Once the Brexit happens, Ireland could let in people that shouldn't be in the UK and vice versa. And they don't have to tell each other who is there. And you could cross that border to bypass customs and border controls.

              That's it. Thanks.

              There is a semi-open border between the UK and Spain at Gibraltar and it's a well known way to bypass border control and sneak out of Europe if you've overstayed your visa without getting caught.

              I've accidentally "sneaked" into the EU that way. Spain just waives you in if you look confident. No passport stamps, no identity control. It is a tiny crossing point, so the risk is low. But it happens. The Irish border is a few hundred miles of open grassland. You could move armies in and out without being noticed.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                Open Borders are what we have between States here in the U.S.

                The E.U. is similar but not quite so open.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Open Borders are what we have between States here in the U.S.

                  The E.U. is similar but not quite so open.

                  Yes, and only works because of a unified outside border and tranparent internal communications. California and NY share international border control, so once inside, you are allowed to be anywhere.

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/12/infiniti-debuts-breakthrough-engine-technology-in-new-qx50/

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite
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                      Russia Banned From Winter Olympics by I.O.C.
                      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/sports/olympics/ioc-russia-winter-olympics.html

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        How the Apollo Fire Propelled NASA to the Moon

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @black3dynamite
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                          @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Russia Banned From Winter Olympics by I.O.C.
                          https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/sports/olympics/ioc-russia-winter-olympics.html

                          No worries, the Orange Idiot-In-Chief will make sure his Russian homies get to compete and win lots of medals... banned supplements rule be damned.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                              Again?

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                ****, the best screen I have to watch youtube on is the TV. Of course I use a fire-tv box with it 😞

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                  Again?

                                  Again 😞

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Thankfully we use Nvidia gear, the one thing that seems to actually work.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                      Again?

                                      Again 😞

                                      I guess it wasn’t again, it was the Amazon Show last time.

                                      Sux I just setup at tv that only has a Amazon TV on it.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                        Just got this notice... Not happy about it.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @coliver
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                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                          Just got this notice... Not happy about it.

                                          Time for a Roku.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                            Just got this notice... Not happy about it.

                                            Time for a Roku.

                                            I've got one. The fire stick is just that much faster and easier to use.

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