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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/

      Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.

      I was reading the piece you posted the other day - interesting problem.. and corruption in the government is preventing them from saving money. 😞

      I just glanced at the article, did they even mention anything about how the grid works?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @travisdh1
        last edited by

        @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/

        Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.

        I was reading the piece you posted the other day - interesting problem.. and corruption in the government is preventing them from saving money. 😞

        I just glanced at the article, did they even mention anything about how the grid works?

        Only that shutdown the the natural gas plants costs more money to bring back online versus the solar, so in the long wrong it's better to shut off the solar.

        But it did say they are still building more natural gas and other non solar/wing plants.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/

          Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.

          I was reading the piece you posted the other day - interesting problem.. and corruption in the government is preventing them from saving money. 😞

          I just glanced at the article, did they even mention anything about how the grid works?

          Only that shutdown the the natural gas plants costs more money to bring back online versus the solar, so in the long wrong it's better to shut off the solar.

          But it did say they are still building more natural gas and other non solar/wing plants.

          While I highly expect corruption is there somewhere, nothing in that article leads one to say corruption.

          Slow changing government? Bad price structures that have not updated? Sure.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Cuba love hotels to make comeback, state announces
            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-40489157

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              Odd...

              http://www.businessinsider.com/cisco-happy-ftc-will-limit-broadcom-with-brocade-2017-7

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
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                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Odd...

                http://www.businessinsider.com/cisco-happy-ftc-will-limit-broadcom-with-brocade-2017-7

                Only way Cisco stays in business, IMHO. Like Hershey's, they had to get the law to block sale of Cadbury's because no one would buy Hershey's if there was another option realistically.

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                • mlnewsM
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                  http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/06/love_robots_report/

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    That whole weird car straddling bus was a scam...

                    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/07/china-elevated-bus-scam/

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews
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                      Flying cars? We'll believe it when we see it.

                      https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/06/are-flying-cars-about-to-become-a-real-thing-starburst-accelerator-thinks-they-are/

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Hackers breached a dozen US nuclear plants, reports say
                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40538061

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller See this too
                          https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/technology/nuclear-plant-hack-report.html?_r=0

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
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                            Star Wars vs. Star Trek Showdown.

                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/possibly-most-intense-star-wars-v-star-trek-argument-ever-ends-in-arrest/

                            Let's be honest, they are really both the same thing, right?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Mike Pence ignores Nasa 'do not touch' sign
                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40540356

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07/hobby-lobby-must-pay-3-million-for-smuggling-ancient-cuneiform-artifacts/

                                Ancient artifact smuggling, classy.

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                                • DanpD
                                  Danp @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  Mike Pence ignores Nasa 'do not touch' sign
                                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40540356

                                  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pence-cracks-twitter-joke-after-touching-nasa-equipment-labeled-do-not-touch/

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22
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                                    This is so stupid

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/climate/rooftop-solar-panels-tax-credits-utility-companies-lobbying.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      This is so stupid

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/climate/rooftop-solar-panels-tax-credits-utility-companies-lobbying.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

                                      Yep...

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @coliver
                                        last edited by JaredBusch

                                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        This is so stupid

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/climate/rooftop-solar-panels-tax-credits-utility-companies-lobbying.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

                                        Yep...

                                        The article is stupid because it is just trying to paint the existing industry as the bad guys. I won't argue that premise, because well, it is true.

                                        But, this is a much more complicated thing than that.

                                        The thing that kept getting brought up in the article is net metering.

                                        Well net metering is fucking stupid at scale. Yeah it was an awesome thing when almost no one actually sold power back at any scale. But modern rooftop solar is now producing a LOT more energy.

                                        This is simple economics, which is just basic math.

                                        The companies that produce power also build and maintain the physical hardware that makes up the power grid in almost every community in the country. Side note: My hometown is one of the exceptions. The city owns and operates all the lines in town.

                                        When you produce enough power to get credited back more than you buy over a year, that means they are paying you so much that they have less money for line maintenance. Granted, for a single house, that is a minuscule amount. But it adds up when thousands are now dong it.

                                        If they worked out a better pricing plan than flat reimbursement at full rate, then this might make more sense.

                                        This goes right along with the article from the other day when CA had to pay AZ to take their excess electricity.

                                        The power grid has no elasticity or storage capacity. That is not how it works, because it made no financial sense to build that capacity, and still does not at huge scale.

                                        SolarCity is one of the big players trying to change that, but it is not there yet.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Side note: My hometown is one of the exceptions. The city owns and operates all the lines in town.

                                          @dominica's too.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Side note: My hometown is one of the exceptions. The city owns and operates all the lines in town.

                                            @dominica's too.

                                            Interesting.

                                            The fact that city owned the poles, made it super easy for the city to roll out their own fiber service. they already had right of way for everything.

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