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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @coliver
      last edited by Dashrender

      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

      I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

      and if the rumor I've heard is true,

      that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

      then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

      Pretty much how I understand it as well. Pilots are just there for emergencies and due to regulations.

      And to make the flying public feel safe. Honestly I think that's why the cockpit door is open during boarding. It's little more than a placebo.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Son of Jor-El
        last edited by

        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

        Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

        I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

        and if the rumor I've heard is true,

        that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

        then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

        That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

        Why is that?

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        • Son of Jor-ElS
          Son of Jor-El @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

          Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

          I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

          and if the rumor I've heard is true,

          that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

          then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

          That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

          Why is that?

          I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

          The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

          https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

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          • Son of Jor-ElS
            Son of Jor-El
            last edited by

            That article has a PDF of the actual FAA document.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              The FAA is recommending humans fly more often, than say a computer, which has a very limited chance of a royal cluster f..... yeah I'm not listening to the FAA any more..

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              • Son of Jor-ElS
                Son of Jor-El @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                The FAA is recommending humans fly more often, than say a computer, which has a very limited chance of a royal cluster f..... yeah I'm not listening to the FAA any more..

                Ask the people on the flight from Rio to Paris where the PITOT tubes froze and there was no autopilot? You can't, they all died because the co-pilot could figure out the plane was in a stall even though the alarm went off over 200 times.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Son of Jor-El
                  last edited by

                  @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                  I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                  and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                  that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                  then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                  That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                  Why is that?

                  I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                  The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                  https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                  The funny thing is that they are telling pilots to only be at the stick when it is least likely to screw up, at least that's how I'm reading it. "We want you to be better... but only when it matters the least."

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Son of Jor-El
                    last edited by

                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                    I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                    and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                    that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                    then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                    That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                    Why is that?

                    I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                    The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                    https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                    So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                      I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                      and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                      that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                      then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                      That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                      Why is that?

                      I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                      The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                      https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                      So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                      Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

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                      • Son of Jor-ElS
                        Son of Jor-El @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                        I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                        and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                        that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                        then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                        That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                        Why is that?

                        I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                        The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                        https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                        The funny thing is that they are telling pilots to only be at the stick when it is least likely to screw up, at least that's how I'm reading it. "We want you to be better... but only when it matters the least."

                        Yeah, that's how I read it too.

                        My friend tells me she use to throw it on autopilot at 500ft after takeoff and off at 50ft, but now she's hand flying it almost all the way down from cruising altitude.

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                        • Son of Jor-ElS
                          Son of Jor-El @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                          I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                          and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                          that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                          then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                          That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                          Why is that?

                          I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                          The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                          https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                          So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                          Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                          That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                          I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @Son of Jor-El
                            last edited by

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                            I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                            and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                            that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                            then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                            That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                            Why is that?

                            I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                            The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                            https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                            So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                            Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                            That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                            I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                            I actually took a summer course when I was a teenager and flew a plane with assistance

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              A buddy of mine is a pilot. We fly sometimes.

                              Youtube Video

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                              • Son of Jor-ElS
                                Son of Jor-El @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                                I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                                and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                                that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                                then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                                That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                                Why is that?

                                I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                                The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                                https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                                So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                                Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                                That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                                I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                                I actually took a summer course when I was a teenager and flew a plane with assistance

                                Nice!! I hate to fly as a passenger, but to pilot...oh yeah!! I'd do it.

                                My friend told me once "I would bring you up on a fight and let you fly, but it's been so long since I flew a small aircraft, I'd probably kill us both LOL'.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Youtube Video

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    My dad trained as a pilot, but realized right when he was getting ready to get certified that he was afraid of heights and would black out if he looked out the windoes.

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                                    • Son of Jor-ElS
                                      Son of Jor-El
                                      last edited by

                                      A simple sim like http://gefs-online.com/gefs.php is a lot of fun! I flew from Diego Garcia in the middle of the Indian Ocean to Moscow in that. I think I have like 300 hours of flying time just in that 1 sim. It's an easy sim, so you don't have to think too much about it...just enjoy.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Son of Jor-El
                                        last edited by

                                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                                        I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                                        and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                                        that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                                        then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                                        That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                                        Why is that?

                                        I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                                        The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                                        https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                                        So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                                        Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                                        That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                                        I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                                        I do simulations on a fairly regular basis, done a carrier launch that was really cool.

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                                        • Son of Jor-ElS
                                          Son of Jor-El @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                                          I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                                          and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                                          that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                                          then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                                          That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                                          Why is that?

                                          I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                                          The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                                          https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                                          So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                                          Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                                          That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                                          I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                                          I do simulations on a fairly regular basis, done a carrier launch that was really cool.

                                          Those are hard!! Landing.....ugh!!

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                                          • NerdyDadN
                                            NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            My dad trained as a pilot, but realized right when he was getting ready to get certified that he was afraid of heights and would black out if he looked out the windoes.

                                            I'm scared of heights too. Even as a passenger, I have problems. I have to talk myself into thinking that everything is okay.

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