Non-IT News Thread
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@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
A two year old toddler has been taken by an alligator from the Grand Floridian Resort, Walt Disney's flagship property. The boy was dragged into the Seven Seas Lagoon, the water on which the Magic Kingdom, Polynesian and Contemporary Resorts also are situated.
Saw this post on 9gag.. through it was a joke. I guess it is not.
[Source]"The sad reality of it is it's been several hours, and we're not likely going to recover a live body," Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said.
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Seriously a two year old - I hope they aren't blaming the gator!
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
Seriously a two year old - I hope they aren't blaming the gator!
And his parents let him wade into water that was off limits due to other safety concerns, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
Seriously a two year old - I hope they aren't blaming the gator!
And his parents let him wade into water that was off limits due to other safety concerns, too.
Most of Florida qualifies as a "safety concern"... Letting a toddler run around anywhere in FL is stupid and negligent.
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@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
Seriously a two year old - I hope they aren't blaming the gator!
And his parents let him wade into water that was off limits due to other safety concerns, too.
Most of Florida qualifies as a "safety concern"... Letting a toddler run around anywhere in FL is stupid and negligent.
Especially IN water at NIGHT. Either of those things being different would have significantly changed the odds of it happening AND the odds of him being saved. And this was in water that was considered unsafe for other reasons as well.
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I don't really know how to react to it. They were at a Disney resort on a man made lake. They were from Nebraska and it said no swimming but there was no sign that gave any warning of gators. The dad ran into the water to fight the alligator but couldn't rescue his son. He was standing right next to him when it happened. I think of it like, you go to look at your TV and your kid gets up on the coffee table and falls. You could say the parent is negligible but it happens to every parent. I feel really bad for them honestly. There is no comfort in what happened.
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I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
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@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
Yeah but these people were from Nebraska. It's possible they didn't know. I don't think condemning them is really the answer here. What is worse than losing your child? I'm not even a parent and I know I'd never recover.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
Yeah but these people were from Nebraska. It's possible they didn't know.
I live on the opposite corner of the continent in another country and even I know that Florida is dangerous
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@MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
Yeah but these people were from Nebraska. It's possible they didn't know.
I live on the opposite corner of the continent in another country and even I know that Florida is dangerous
Yeah but that's because people eat bath salts. There is very general knowledge that I don't have in the IT field. You'd all expect me to know but I don't. You can't assume because you know there are alligators in Florida that everyone knows.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
What is worse than losing your child?
Knowing you lost your child due to your own stupidity because you let a 2 year old run loose in central FL.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
Yeah but these people were from Nebraska. It's possible they didn't know.
I live on the opposite corner of the continent in another country and even I know that Florida is dangerous
Yeah but that's because people eat bath salts. There is very general knowledge that I don't have in the IT field. You'd all expect me to know but I don't. You can't assume because you know there are alligators in Florida that everyone knows.
The bath salt eating meth heads are only about 30% of the danger in FL. I routinely saw large poisonous snakes everywhere, especially while golfing and fishing. Nature is what is dangerous about FL, kinda like Australia.
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@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
Yeah but these people were from Nebraska. It's possible they didn't know.
I live on the opposite corner of the continent in another country and even I know that Florida is dangerous
Yeah but that's because people eat bath salts. There is very general knowledge that I don't have in the IT field. You'd all expect me to know but I don't. You can't assume because you know there are alligators in Florida that everyone knows.
The bath salt eating meth heads are only about 30% of the danger in FL. I routinely saw large poisonous snakes everywhere, especially while golfing and fishing. Nature is what is dangerous about FL, kinda like Australia.
I think the whole state is made up of fire ants underneath the sand.
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@johnhooks said in Non-IT News Thread:
@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
Yeah but these people were from Nebraska. It's possible they didn't know.
I live on the opposite corner of the continent in another country and even I know that Florida is dangerous
Yeah but that's because people eat bath salts. There is very general knowledge that I don't have in the IT field. You'd all expect me to know but I don't. You can't assume because you know there are alligators in Florida that everyone knows.
The bath salt eating meth heads are only about 30% of the danger in FL. I routinely saw large poisonous snakes everywhere, especially while golfing and fishing. Nature is what is dangerous about FL, kinda like Australia.
I think the whole state is made up of fire ants underneath the sand.
It is. And nematodes.
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@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
What is worse than losing your child?
Knowing you lost your child due to your own stupidity because you let a 2 year old run loose in central FL.
I guess man. I think these people paid their own price. It's not my place to judge them. I don't know the situation or who they are as parents/people. Innocent until proven guilty.
"The boy's family was at a movie night outdoors at the Grand Floridian resort when around 9 p.m. the boy waded into about a foot of water in a lagoon, authorities have said. Witnesses, including the boy's horrified parents, tried to save him. His father jumped in and tried to pry the gator's mouth open. His mother jumped in, too."
The guy tried to pry the jaws of an alligator open to save him.
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@johnhooks said in Non-IT News Thread:
@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
Yeah but these people were from Nebraska. It's possible they didn't know.
I live on the opposite corner of the continent in another country and even I know that Florida is dangerous
Yeah but that's because people eat bath salts. There is very general knowledge that I don't have in the IT field. You'd all expect me to know but I don't. You can't assume because you know there are alligators in Florida that everyone knows.
The bath salt eating meth heads are only about 30% of the danger in FL. I routinely saw large poisonous snakes everywhere, especially while golfing and fishing. Nature is what is dangerous about FL, kinda like Australia.
I think the whole state is made up of fire ants underneath the sand.
Well, that would explain the sandy red soil.... it's all ant poop.
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I'm actually on-board with you guys now. I looked up for articles about it and I found this picture.
They said these signs are all over the place. Again, innocent until proven guilty. I would say this qualifies as negligence.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
What is worse than losing your child?
Knowing you lost your child due to your own stupidity because you let a 2 year old run loose in central FL.
I guess man. I think these people paid their own price. It's not my place to judge them. I don't know the situation or who they are as parents/people. Innocent until proven guilty.
"The boy's family was at a movie night outdoors at the Grand Floridian resort when around 9 p.m. the boy waded into about a foot of water in a lagoon, authorities have said. Witnesses, including the boy's horrified parents, tried to save him. His father jumped in and tried to pry the gator's mouth open. His mother jumped in, too."
The guy tried to pry the jaws of an alligator open to save him.
That must have been a hell of a good movie to neglect a 2 year old long enough to lose him. Would you let a 2 year old wander off in Las Vegas? No, because bad shit can happen. In Florida, that bad shit includes gators.
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@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
I lived in Orlando for a few years in my 20s. Nobody ever went swimming in the many lakes and ponds around the city, because 'gators. It is why everybody has swimming pools.
What is worse than losing your child?
Knowing you lost your child due to your own stupidity because you let a 2 year old run loose in central FL.
And these were Americans. Knowing that Florida is dangerous is common knowledge and common sense. If they were from, you know, Laos and had no idea that Florida was dangerous I'd give them more of a pass. But we assume that they need to have been responsible for basic US knowledge AND how to read English being from Nebraska. Maybe they were recent immigrants or something and can't read English and have no idea as to the state of the natural predators in Florida, but it seems pretty far fetched.
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I've been warned by Disney about the alligators on the same body of water where this happened. Can't say what happened in this particular case, but having been there a lot, I never found there to be a shortage of warnings. Although where he was wading used to be a popular swimming spot.