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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
The Keystone pipeline also cut through national parks, causing an insane amount of environmental harm.
It will cut through parks, yes. Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible.
Still nice that Buffett and Gates will get more money in their pocket while 1000's have less.
So Gates/Buffet win instead of somebody else? It's a wash.
Sounds like thousands truckers will be keeping their jobs now :man_shrugging: You must be in oil pipeline IT to be so torn up over this.
Nope. I'm in medical. There are a bunch of workers at many pipe manufacturers in the country. Truckers would still have their jobs, just delivering different materials.
Ok, so why are you pretending to care about them? Just needed something to be outraged about?
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible.
This genius comment is on par with one of your comments from yesterday:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
Just charges and nothing else.I'm sorry if you don't like facts.
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
The Keystone pipeline also cut through national parks, causing an insane amount of environmental harm.
It will cut through parks, yes. Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible.
Still nice that Buffett and Gates will get more money in their pocket while 1000's have less.
So Gates/Buffet win instead of somebody else? It's a wash.
Sounds like thousands truckers will be keeping their jobs now :man_shrugging: You must be in oil pipeline IT to be so torn up over this.
Nope. I'm in medical. There are a bunch of workers at many pipe manufacturers in the country. Truckers would still have their jobs, just delivering different materials.
Ok, so why are you pretending to care about them? Just needed something to be outraged about?
I'm not outraged at all. I'm just pointing out a fact.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
The Keystone pipeline also cut through national parks, causing an insane amount of environmental harm.
It will cut through parks, yes. Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible.
Still nice that Buffett and Gates will get more money in their pocket while 1000's have less.
So Gates/Buffet win instead of somebody else? It's a wash.
Sounds like thousands truckers will be keeping their jobs now :man_shrugging: You must be in oil pipeline IT to be so torn up over this.
Nope. I'm in medical. There are a bunch of workers at many pipe manufacturers in the country. Truckers would still have their jobs, just delivering different materials.
Ok, so why are you pretending to care about them? Just needed something to be outraged about?
I'm not outraged at all. I'm just pointing out a fact.
Ah yeah, you're big on facts. I almost forgot. You certainly pinned down every aspect of the oil industry and thoroughly detailed every consequence of the executive order for us. I should be thanking you! Take your trolling over to 8kun
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
The Keystone pipeline also cut through national parks, causing an insane amount of environmental harm.
It will cut through parks, yes. Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible.
Still nice that Buffett and Gates will get more money in their pocket while 1000's have less.
So Gates/Buffet win instead of somebody else? It's a wash.
Sounds like thousands truckers will be keeping their jobs now :man_shrugging: You must be in oil pipeline IT to be so torn up over this.
Nope. I'm in medical. There are a bunch of workers at many pipe manufacturers in the country. Truckers would still have their jobs, just delivering different materials.
Ok, so why are you pretending to care about them? Just needed something to be outraged about?
I'm not outraged at all. I'm just pointing out a fact.
Ah yeah, you're big on facts. I almost forgot. You certainly pinned down every aspect of the oil industry and thoroughly detailed every consequence of the executive order for us. I should be thanking you!
So what I stated about impeachment is wrong? Hmmm... Or did you purposely leave that out?
No room to do that here. Just look at the map of keystone, correspond that with Buffett's railway line, add that to the realization that some of the oil will only go by rail and some will not leave Canada. In Canada it will likely travel by rail up north. Now hop over to gurufocus.com, look up the investors to find the companies they own.
Pretty easy to see.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
No room to do that here. Just look at the map of keystone, correspond that with Buffett's railway line, add that to the realization that some of the oil will only go by rail and some will not leave Canada. In Canada it will likely travel by rail up north. Now hop over to gurufocus.com, look up the investors to find the companies they own.
This sounds like a theory to me... but may actually be facts. I'm unsure at this point because you are so unbiased and factual that my brain doesn't know how to proceed. I will consult Q, please hold.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Biden to sign 10 executive orders to tackle Covid-19
President Joe Biden is set to sign 10 executive orders to boost the fight against Covid which has ravaged the US.
Vaccination will be accelerated and testing increased. Emergency legislation will be used to increase production of essentials like masks. In a break with former President Donald Trump, the policy stresses a national strategy rather than relying on states to decide what is best. The moves comes a day after Mr Biden was sworn in as the 46th president. The Trump administration was widely accused of failing to get to grips with the pandemic. In terms of total deaths from coronavirus, the US is the worst-hit country with more than 406,000 lives lost according to Johns Hopkins University. Nearly 24.5 million have been infected.Biden did some good work so far. Made his buddies Buffett and Gates richer while taking away some good paying middle-class jobs. Excellent start I say... Can't wait for what's to come...
Please elaborate...
I did throw up and edit while you posted so I will add in the edit part also.
Killed Keystone Pipeline XL permit. Thousands of jobs just vanished. Buffett owns Railway and Gates has billions invested in Canadian Railway. Trudeau was looking forward to those oil dollars along with a bunch of other Canadian workers.
Get ready for a hell of a ride!
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@Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Biden to sign 10 executive orders to tackle Covid-19
President Joe Biden is set to sign 10 executive orders to boost the fight against Covid which has ravaged the US.
Vaccination will be accelerated and testing increased. Emergency legislation will be used to increase production of essentials like masks. In a break with former President Donald Trump, the policy stresses a national strategy rather than relying on states to decide what is best. The moves comes a day after Mr Biden was sworn in as the 46th president. The Trump administration was widely accused of failing to get to grips with the pandemic. In terms of total deaths from coronavirus, the US is the worst-hit country with more than 406,000 lives lost according to Johns Hopkins University. Nearly 24.5 million have been infected.Biden did some good work so far. Made his buddies Buffett and Gates richer while taking away some good paying middle-class jobs. Excellent start I say... Can't wait for what's to come...
Please elaborate...
I did throw up and edit while you posted so I will add in the edit part also.
Killed Keystone Pipeline XL permit. Thousands of jobs just vanished. Buffett owns Railway and Gates has billions invested in Canadian Railway. Trudeau was looking forward to those oil dollars along with a bunch of other Canadian workers.
Get ready for a hell of a ride!
Oh I know.
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
No room to do that here. Just look at the map of keystone, correspond that with Buffett's railway line, add that to the realization that some of the oil will only go by rail and some will not leave Canada. In Canada it will likely travel by rail up north. Now hop over to gurufocus.com, look up the investors to find the companies they own.
This sounds like a theory to me... but may actually be facts. I'm unsure at this point because you are so unbiased and factual that my brain doesn't know how to proceed. I will consult Q, please hold.
Just so we are on the same page at this moment.
Three facts I thought we were disputing:
- Keystone Pipeline XL Permit cancellation - Fact is, jobs were lost.
- My comment you posted from yesterday about Impeachment. - Fact, Impeachment is a charge only (aka Indictment). No trial, no one has been proven guilty, nothing other than a piece of paper the House drew up with charges on it.
- Comment of Pipeline "Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible." It is fact that the pipeline XL is not built.
If any of those are not facts please explain.
As for the money flow, that is theory and never stated that as a fact. Highly probable though and investors are linking it too.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
No room to do that here. Just look at the map of keystone, correspond that with Buffett's railway line, add that to the realization that some of the oil will only go by rail and some will not leave Canada. In Canada it will likely travel by rail up north. Now hop over to gurufocus.com, look up the investors to find the companies they own.
This sounds like a theory to me... but may actually be facts. I'm unsure at this point because you are so unbiased and factual that my brain doesn't know how to proceed. I will consult Q, please hold.
Just so we are on the same page at this moment.
Three facts I thought we were disputing:
- Keystone Pipeline XL Permit cancellation - Fact is, jobs were lost.
- My comment you posted from yesterday about Impeachment. - Fact, Impeachment is a charge only (aka Indictment). No trial, no one has been proven guilty, nothing other than a piece of paper the House drew up with charges on it.
- Comment of Pipeline "Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible." It is fact that the pipeline XL is not built.
If any of those are not facts please explain.
As for the money flow, that is theory and never stated that as a fact. Highly probable though and investors are linking it too.
Facts are just so difficult, man. Maybe I think it's a fact that the Earth is roundish, your facts might say it's flat, so whose facts are actual facts? I can't believe I'm biting... again... but here goes
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The vast majority of pipeline jobs are temporary. Thousands more jobs may disappear the minute the pipeline is done; the construction jobs, the supply chain jobs AND people that have been transporting the oil thus far. If the pipeline didn't streamline the process they wouldn't do it to begin with. So facts? Meh. I don't believe you have real supporting evidence to show that even 100 jobs were lost as of this minute. For all we know a thousand lawyers just got hired to fight the order...
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Impeachment is just charges, which no one was arguing, but "nothing else?" Meh. I disagree. I think there's more to it than that. Tangible things? Maybe not. It's still on Trumps record for being the best, most greatest, highest impeached, ever, in the history of ever... But yeah, if the mob owns the jury, charges mean nothing. I'll concede this one. Kudos.
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Define environmental harm. Maybe global warming isn't real. Or maybe bulldozers through sacred land doesn't count. If you do an image search for "Keystone XL Construction" one might construe that as "insane environmental harm" and that's not even considering all the potential things that may, or may not, go wrong once it's functional. So facts? Meh.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
- Keystone Pipeline XL Permit cancellation - Fact is, jobs were lost.
Temporary construction jobs will be, yes.
The KXL is the final part of the Keystone pipeline. The original pipeline itself was completed already and has been delivering crude for a couple years now.
KXL was halted prior to any real work being started by the Obama administration. Had Trump not decided to make his big oil friends richer and granted the permit, there would be nothing to even talk about. But he did, and now there are 3 years of pipeline work in place. Halting it now is just stupid. So who is getting richer now?
Even if your baseless claim about who is getting money is true, there are also public facts about how much philanthropic work is done by the two names you specifically called out. Can you say the same about Russ Girling, the CEO of TC Energy?
But all of that has nothing to do with the obviously unthoughtout rant you posted.
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
No room to do that here. Just look at the map of keystone, correspond that with Buffett's railway line, add that to the realization that some of the oil will only go by rail and some will not leave Canada. In Canada it will likely travel by rail up north. Now hop over to gurufocus.com, look up the investors to find the companies they own.
This sounds like a theory to me... but may actually be facts. I'm unsure at this point because you are so unbiased and factual that my brain doesn't know how to proceed. I will consult Q, please hold.
Just so we are on the same page at this moment.
Three facts I thought we were disputing:
- Keystone Pipeline XL Permit cancellation - Fact is, jobs were lost.
- My comment you posted from yesterday about Impeachment. - Fact, Impeachment is a charge only (aka Indictment). No trial, no one has been proven guilty, nothing other than a piece of paper the House drew up with charges on it.
- Comment of Pipeline "Causing an insane amount of environmental harm is an unknown but possible." It is fact that the pipeline XL is not built.
If any of those are not facts please explain.
As for the money flow, that is theory and never stated that as a fact. Highly probable though and investors are linking it too.
Facts are just so difficult, man. Maybe I think it's a fact that the Earth is roundish, your facts might say it's flat, so whose facts are actual facts? I can't believe I'm biting... again... but here goes
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The vast majority of pipeline jobs are temporary. Thousands more jobs may disappear the minute the pipeline is done; the construction jobs, the supply chain jobs AND people that have been transporting the oil thus far. If the pipeline didn't streamline the process they wouldn't do it to begin with. So facts? Meh. I don't believe you have real supporting evidence to show that even 100 jobs were lost as of this minute. For all we know a thousand lawyers just got hired to fight the order...
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Impeachment is just charges, which no one was arguing, but "nothing else?" Meh. I disagree. I think there's more to it than that. Tangible things? Maybe not. It's still on Trumps record for being the best, most greatest, highest impeached, ever, in the history of ever... But yeah, if the mob owns the jury, charges mean nothing. I'll concede this one. Kudos.
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Define environmental harm. Maybe global warming isn't real. Or maybe bulldozers through sacred land doesn't count. If you do an image search for "Keystone XL Construction" one might construe that as "insane environmental harm" and that's not even considering all the potential things that may, or may not, go wrong once it's functional. So facts? Meh.
Do you also believe that Bill Gates is putting microchips in the covid vaccines.
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Coronavirus: UK variant 'may be more deadly'
Early evidence suggests the variant of coronavirus that emerged in the UK may be more deadly, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said.
However, there remains huge uncertainty around the numbers - and vaccines are still expected to work. The data comes from mathematicians comparing death rates in people infected with either the new or the old versions of the virus. The new more infectious variant has already spread widely across the UK. Mr Johnson told a Downing Street briefing: "In addition to spreading more quickly, it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant - the variant that was first identified in London and the south east - may be associated with a higher degree of mortality. "It's largely the impact of this new variant that means the NHS is under such intense pressure." -
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Covid: Dutch curfew riots rage for third night
Riot police in the Netherlands have again clashed with protesters defying a curfew, following a weekend of unrest.
More than 150 people were arrested, local media say. In Rotterdam, the police fired warning shots and tear gas, after an emergency order issued by the mayor failed to move demonstrators. Unrest started over the weekend as protesters kicked back against newly imposed coronavirus restrictions. Prime Minister Mark Rutte has condemned what he called "criminal violence". -
Biden raises election meddling with Putin in first phone call
US President Joe Biden has warned his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin about election meddling in their first call, the White House says.
The conversation included a discussion about the ongoing opposition protests in Russia and an extension of the last remaining US-Russia nuclear arms pact. Mr Putin congratulated the new US president on winning the election, according to a Russian statement. Both parties said they agreed to maintain contact moving forward. Former US President Donald Trump was accused by critics of not being forceful enough with Mr Putin. US intelligence officials say Moscow has been involved in several US hacks. Former President Barack Obama - under whom Mr Biden served as vice-president - was also accused of weakness on Russia, and failing to check the Kremlin as it annexed Crimea, invaded eastern Ukraine and muscled in on Syria. -
Biden to sign executive orders on environment
US President Joe Biden will sign a series of executive orders aimed to address climate change, including a new ban on some energy drilling.
The orders aim to freeze new oil and gas leases on public lands and double offshore wind-produced energy by 2030. They are expected to meet stiff resistance from the energy industry and come as a sea change from Donald Trump, who cut environmental protections. Mr Biden will also label climate change a "national security" priority. The series of executive orders that Mr Biden is due to sign on Wednesday will establish a White House office of domestic climate policy and announce a summit of leaders in the movement to tackle climate change to be held in April. Mr Biden will also call upon the US Director of National Intelligence to prepare an intelligence report on the security implications of climate change. -
China warns Taiwan independence 'means war' as US pledges support
China has warned Taiwan that any attempt to seek independence "means war".
The warning comes days after China stepped up its military activities and flew warplanes near the island. It also comes after new US President Joe Biden reaffirmed his commitment to Taiwan, and set out his stance in Asia. The US has called China's latest warning "unfortunate", adding that tensions did not need to lead to "anything like confrontation". China sees democratic Taiwan as a breakaway province, but Taiwan sees itself as a sovereign state, with its own constitution, military, and elected leaders. -
Myanmar coup: Aung San Suu Kyi detained as military seizes control
Myanmar's military has seized power after detaining Aung San Suu Kyi and other democratically elected leaders.
Troops are patrolling streets in major cities and communications are limited. The top army commander is now in charge and a one-year state of emergency has been declared, army TV announced. The move follows a landslide win by Ms Suu Kyi's party in an election the army claims was marred by fraud. She urged her supporters to "not accept this" and "protest against the coup". In a letter written in preparation for her impending detention, she said the military's actions put the country back under dictatorship. -
Putin critic Navalny jailed in Russia despite protests
A Moscow court has jailed Putin critic Alexei Navalny for three-and-a-half years for violating the conditions of a suspended sentence.
He has been in detention since returning to Russia last month. He was treated in Germany for a near-fatal nerve agent attack on him in August. There have been violent scenes in Moscow - video on social media show police beating and arresting protesters who came out to support Mr Navalny. Thousands have rallied across Russia. Mr Navalny's suspended sentence for embezzlement has been converted into a jail term. He has already served a year under house arrest which will be deducted from the total. Mr Navalny greeted the news with a resigned shrug, the BBC's Sarah Rainsford in Moscow reports. In court he called President Vladimir Putin a "poisoner", blaming him for the attack. His supporters called for an immediate protest, and hundreds gathered in central Moscow and St Petersburg despite a heavy police presence. More than 750 have been detained in Moscow alone, according to monitors.
