freepbx: Supported devices
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@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
While I understand the ask to want to save on the devices, the devices are likely the cheapest line item to address when making changes to your PBX environment.
Absolutely backwards. The desk phones are the largest expense for any company beyond a tiny mom and pop.
Exactly.
We had Mitel for 20+ years until recently.
I did several cost analysis compared to moving to another solution, and until we needed the ability to work from home, the cost of new phones just never made sense.But once we had this new need, all bets were off, the move to new phones and soft phones was WAY cheaper than the licensing needed for Mitel to work from home.
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@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@gjacobse said in freepbx: Supported devices:
but didn't see the Shortel / Mitel line listed.
Because you are looking at a list of phones that work with the Phone Apps commercial module.
If the phone supports standard SIP protocols, it will work with Asterisk, and thus with FreePBX.
If, on the other hand, you are wanting to have support within the FreePBX commercial Endpoint Manager, that is a different question.
Makes sense... SIP is SIP..
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I tried getting my older SIP capable Mitel phones added to FreePBX, it was a huge PITA, and I couldn’t program any buttons.
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@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@gjacobse said in freepbx: Supported devices:
However this is a non-profit and an expense is an expense.
A business is a business. Good non-profits understand this and invest wisely instead of miserly.
Don't disagree - and thus far - I am seeing this as a good NPO. The IT Director isn't against the correct expenses...
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@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
While I understand the ask to want to save on the devices, the devices are likely the cheapest line item to address when making changes to your PBX environment.
Absolutely backwards. The desk phones are the largest expense for any company beyond a tiny mom and pop.
Only when looking at solutions like FreePBX is it the most expensive part, Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out and you don't have the expense of "hardware" (it's really all just bundled in).
I get what you're saying though, because it would be a large lift to have to purchase new phones that aren't tied to a specific platform.
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@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
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@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
In the no hardware purchase required, it's included way.
FFS on your literal horse today.. . .
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@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
In the no hardware purchase required, it's included way.
FFS on your literal horse today.. . .
So instead of failing on way, you want to fail another by not taking into account the cost of the service when you're looking at the devices.. Yeah, can't follow ya down that rabbit hole.
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@dashrender said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
In the no hardware purchase required, it's included way.
FFS on your literal horse today.. . .
So instead of failing on way, you want to fail another by not taking into account the cost of the service when you're looking at the devices.. Yeah, can't follow ya down that rabbit hole.
No, what?
Who ever said anything about the service? We were discussing FreePBX vs Other hosted phone systems.
And how FreePBX can be hosted internally at a minimal cost, compared to systems like RingCentral and the al la cart approach which has all of the costs of everything buried.
You SIP provider offers a service, that is a calculable know cost. What isn't something to know is what you're actually paying to lease phones from companies like RingCentral as they bury that cost into the monthly.
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@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dashrender said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
In the no hardware purchase required, it's included way.
FFS on your literal horse today.. . .
So instead of failing on way, you want to fail another by not taking into account the cost of the service when you're looking at the devices.. Yeah, can't follow ya down that rabbit hole.
No, what?
Who ever said anything about the service? We were discussing FreePBX vs Other hosted phone systems.
And how FreePBX can be hosted internally at a minimal cost, compared to systems like RingCentral and the al la cart approach which has all of the costs of everything buried.
You SIP provider offers a service, that is a calculable know cost. What isn't something to know is what you're actually paying to lease phones from companies like RingCentral as they bury that cost into the monthly.
You can't look at something like RC without considering ALL of the costs because of exactly the reasons you mentioned (bundled in everything)... so you have to look at the whole picture, you can no longer break them out into the PBX and phones vs another PBX and phones (think FreePBX vs Mitel) - instead you have to look at the whole system holistically.
So again - Exactly - you're making JB's argument for him.
IF you are even considering RC - then you need to look at the cost of RC versus the whole cost of something else - FreePBX + Hosting it+ Telco service + phones, etc.
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@gjacobse said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Shortel / Mitel phones.
Ask the other way. FreePBX is a SIP system. Are Shortel / Mitel SIP phones?
If so, they work. If not, they don't.
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@dashrender said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dashrender said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
In the no hardware purchase required, it's included way.
FFS on your literal horse today.. . .
So instead of failing on way, you want to fail another by not taking into account the cost of the service when you're looking at the devices.. Yeah, can't follow ya down that rabbit hole.
No, what?
Who ever said anything about the service? We were discussing FreePBX vs Other hosted phone systems.
And how FreePBX can be hosted internally at a minimal cost, compared to systems like RingCentral and the al la cart approach which has all of the costs of everything buried.
You SIP provider offers a service, that is a calculable know cost. What isn't something to know is what you're actually paying to lease phones from companies like RingCentral as they bury that cost into the monthly.
You can't look at something like RC without considering ALL of the costs because of exactly the reasons you mentioned (bundled in everything)... so you have to look at the whole picture, you can no longer break them out into the PBX and phones vs another PBX and phones (think FreePBX vs Mitel) - instead you have to look at the whole system holistically.
Except you can't look at Mitel holistically because you can't pick and choose what underlying service providers you want.
You can pick what features you want and a call route etc, but you can't pick a Shortel etc to carry your lines.
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@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
In the no hardware purchase required, it's included way.
FFS on your literal horse today.. . .
Never do that, you always end up paying 3-400% the cost of just buying the phones.
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@scottalanmiller said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@jaredbusch said in freepbx: Supported devices:
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
Phone Service providers strip all of the hardware cost out
No they don't. You said it yourself.
@dustinb3403 said in freepbx: Supported devices:
it's really all just bundled in
In the no hardware purchase required, it's included way.
FFS on your literal horse today.. . .
Never do that, you always end up paying 3-400% the cost of just buying the phones.
Exactly, and at the end you may or may not even own the equipment depending on the contract.
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A client of mine is getting out of a situation like that with Cox.
Cox charged like $80/m originally per phone for 4 phones - they installed the cable, the switch, the UPS, then 5 years ago lowed the price to $50/m/each.
Now they are moving to FreePBX, paying their own hosting fees, and bought the phones outright. Monthly bill fell by approx 75%
