Fully Functional Domain from Zero
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Do you mean AAD over ADD?
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@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
Do you mean AAD over ADD?
Type-o - fixed.
I meant AAD vs AD - i.e. cloud vs likely onprem or colo
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@dashrender said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
@gjacobse I think we need a lot more details.
You're talking about domains - but do you mean AD or ADD or something else?
Everything needed for a proper Domain - Lan-less or not - for a new business that until you walked through the door - didn't / doesn't have anything. Not even a purchase order for a server or services.
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@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
@dashrender said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
@gjacobse I think we need a lot more details.
You're talking about domains - but do you mean AD or ADD or something else?
Everything needed for a proper Domain - Lan-less or not - for a new business that until you walked through the door - didn't / doesn't have anything. Not even a purchase order for a server or services.
Why even talk about a domain? Listening to Scott, and some others, those are basically dead....
Even if I go full on M365, and join Win10 computers to AAD, I barely look at it as a domain.. even though, yeah.. it is one.
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@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
proper Domain - Lan-less or not -
You are mixing things up for certain, because those two things don't mean shit to each other.
Domain != AD or AAD unless you are specifically asking for a Windows Domain.
So stop, go back to simple and clarify WTF you want.
Edit: @scottalanmiller would be like 20 posts in already on this if he was around.
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If I'm walking into a greenfield situation - I would likely skip any and all local infrastructure as much as possible.
Setup an account on M365, no licenses are actually required - you just can't do much (like no email, etc) without a license. But you can administrate the environment.
Purchase email domain name if not already acquired.
Setup domain name in M365
setup security settings in M365
Create users in M365
pass out credentialsDone
As for the local network - ER4 or whatever is current at that level for gateway and DHCP.
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I'm not in a greenfield setup, and I'm still actually trying to ask this same question - but I have several requirements.
20 shared front desk computers - each user needs to be able to log in as themselves at any of them (personalized logon required so they can lock the machine when they step away)
deploy printers automatically
gather windows update status
access shared files from anywhere
Access email from anywhere
remotely manage machines
I'm sure there are more if I spend time thinking about it.
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@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
But, could one say - a core system minus the needed desktops for users, and any onsite servers for needs could be spun up in 1-3 days?
I took this to mean "maybe the hardware is already acquired".
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@jasgot said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
But, could one say - a core system minus the needed desktops for users, and any onsite servers for needs could be spun up in 1-3 days?
I took this to mean "maybe the hardware is already acquired".
No - No hardware. Greenfield
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@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
@jasgot said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
But, could one say - a core system minus the needed desktops for users, and any onsite servers for needs could be spun up in 1-3 days?
I took this to mean "maybe the hardware is already acquired".
No - No hardware. Greenfield
Okay. Then 21 days for Hardware.
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@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
Now, I realize that some aspects of that depend on how many people need to be on boarded - but also not really with the use of things discussed with @EddieJennings using Powershell and such things.
Didn’t think your were in a greenfield, unless you’re asking hypothetically.
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@eddiejennings said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
@gjacobse said in Fully Functional Domain from Zero:
Now, I realize that some aspects of that depend on how many people need to be on boarded - but also not really with the use of things discussed with @EddieJennings using Powershell and such things.
Didn’t think your were in a greenfield, unless you’re asking hypothetically.
Different project - not current employment / involvement.
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@gjacobse Can we start over with a list of requirements instead of thinking we must start with 'domain'?
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@gjacobse Set up the Hyper-V host from scratch about 60-75 minutes up to date.
Set up the required base OS virtual machines about 45-60 minutes (count does not matter).
Greenfield Active Directory, OUs, GPOs, DNS, DHCP, Folders, and Shares about 45-60 minutes.
Import and configuration of base GPOs about 60 minutes.
Exchange on-premises about 30 minutes post Exchange install.
Script to set up users, their groups, and their mailbox about 60 minutes.
Time to run the script: 60 seconds.
Done.
User count does not matter. All in PowerShell.
And yes, all of our clients are on-premises Exchange.
EDIT: We charge a flat fee for the above.
