Fitness and Weightloss



  • @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

    The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

    I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

    I'd rather have broccoli and sweet potatoes than cauliflower.

    I didn't say cauliflower was the best. It just is useful. My favorite veggie would have to be carrots, followed closely by turnip greens.

    @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

    The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

    I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

    I'd rather have broccoli and sweet potatoes than cauliflower.

    I didn't say cauliflower was the best veggie just useful. I like carrots the best followed closely by turnip greens.



  • Just my 2 cents, but we need to be clear when we define what we are trying to say when we talk about health on this thread. Health and nutrition is very complicated and there is no best practice defined, it isn't like IT. I think for arguments sake we need to say if our goal in a suggestion is to loose weight, build muscle, run for distance, live longer, or what. As a culture especially in the US we see marathon runners and weight lifters and think, now that is healthy, but the reality is the runners and weight lifters who preform at the top level, die really young. Even if we post the magical formula of what is "healthy", it doesn't work for everyone. Some people at a genetic level do not thrive on the same diet and habits as another human. So be careful when talking about what is "best" for "health" and be clear what your goals are in making any change to your routine. Lastly, there are some things that are agreed upon. Being obese is bad, and it will kill you, so eat a little better, and try to maintain a decently healthy lifestyle. and let's not get stuck in the weeds about what is the best way to do it.



  • @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    Just my 2 cents, but we need to be clear when we define what we are trying to say when we talk about health on this thread. Health and nutrition is very complicated and there is no best practice defined, it isn't like IT. I think for arguments sake we need to say if our goal in a suggestion is to loose weight, build muscle, run for distance, live longer, or what. As a culture especially in the US we see marathon runners and weight lifters and think, now that is healthy, but the reality is the runners and weight lifters who preform at the top level, die really young. Even if we post the magical formula of what is "healthy", it doesn't work for everyone. Some people at a genetic level do not thrive on the same diet and habits as another human. So be careful when talking about what is "best" for "health" and be clear what your goals are in making any change to your routine. Lastly, there are some things that are agreed upon. Being obese is bad, and it will kill you, so eat a little better, and try to maintain a decently healthy lifestyle. and let's not get stuck in the weeds about what is the best way to do it.

    I'm always speaking in the context of better health overall, which is a good balance of everything, where the below IS a best practice (to your best ability):

    • Diet
      • Avoid processed foods and drinks
      • Avoid added sugars
      • Avoid bad carbs (breads, potato, white rice, pastries, cereals, etc)
      • Go for unprocessed, more natural foods: (natually a more healthy choice by default)
        • walnuts, pecans, peanuts, etc.
        • peas, broccoli, spinach, etc.
        • avocado, sweet potato / yam, whole oats, etc.
        • tuna, salmon, turkey, black beans, etc.
        • banana, dates, berries, etc.
    • Sleep
      • 8.5 hours "in bed"
      • 7-8 hours of actual sleeping
        • if this is difficult, try "sleep compression"
    • Exercise
      • Strength Training (muscle, bone, heart, lung health)
      • Cardio (heart and lung health)


  • @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    Just my 2 cents, but we need to be clear when we define what we are trying to say when we talk about health on this thread. Health and nutrition is very complicated and there is no best practice defined, it isn't like IT. I think for arguments sake we need to say if our goal in a suggestion is to loose weight, build muscle, run for distance, live longer, or what. As a culture especially in the US we see marathon runners and weight lifters and think, now that is healthy, but the reality is the runners and weight lifters who preform at the top level, die really young. Even if we post the magical formula of what is "healthy", it doesn't work for everyone. Some people at a genetic level do not thrive on the same diet and habits as another human. So be careful when talking about what is "best" for "health" and be clear what your goals are in making any change to your routine. Lastly, there are some things that are agreed upon. Being obese is bad, and it will kill you, so eat a little better, and try to maintain a decently healthy lifestyle. and let's not get stuck in the weeds about what is the best way to do it.

    I'm always speaking in the context of better health overall, which is a good balance of everything, where the below IS a best practice (to your best ability):

    • Diet
      • Avoid processed foods and drinks
      • Avoid added sugars
      • Avoid bad carbs (breads, potato, white rice, pastries, cereals, etc)
      • Go for unprocessed, more natural foods: (natually a more healthy choice by default)
        • walnuts, pecans, peanuts, etc.
        • peas, broccoli, spinach, etc.
        • avocado, sweet potato / yam, whole oats, etc.
        • tuna, salmon, turkey, black beans, etc.
        • banana, dates, berries, etc.
    • Sleep
      • 8.5 hours "in bed"
      • 7-8 hours of actual sleeping
        • if this is difficult, try "sleep compression"
    • Exercise
      • Strength Training (muscle, bone, heart, lung health)
      • Cardio (heart and lung health)

    Well… for diet, you miss the first and most important point, the energy balance. You have to eat the right amount of calories per day, that’s the foundamental point. You can get this amount eating junk food or good stuff, but they are still calories.



  • I dont get how white rice is considered bad. 4 billion people eat it as their main source of food every day. None has type 2 diabetes or is obese.



  • @francesco-provino said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    Just my 2 cents, but we need to be clear when we define what we are trying to say when we talk about health on this thread. Health and nutrition is very complicated and there is no best practice defined, it isn't like IT. I think for arguments sake we need to say if our goal in a suggestion is to loose weight, build muscle, run for distance, live longer, or what. As a culture especially in the US we see marathon runners and weight lifters and think, now that is healthy, but the reality is the runners and weight lifters who preform at the top level, die really young. Even if we post the magical formula of what is "healthy", it doesn't work for everyone. Some people at a genetic level do not thrive on the same diet and habits as another human. So be careful when talking about what is "best" for "health" and be clear what your goals are in making any change to your routine. Lastly, there are some things that are agreed upon. Being obese is bad, and it will kill you, so eat a little better, and try to maintain a decently healthy lifestyle. and let's not get stuck in the weeds about what is the best way to do it.

    I'm always speaking in the context of better health overall, which is a good balance of everything, where the below IS a best practice (to your best ability):

    • Diet
      • Avoid processed foods and drinks
      • Avoid added sugars
      • Avoid bad carbs (breads, potato, white rice, pastries, cereals, etc)
      • Go for unprocessed, more natural foods: (natually a more healthy choice by default)
        • walnuts, pecans, peanuts, etc.
        • peas, broccoli, spinach, etc.
        • avocado, sweet potato / yam, whole oats, etc.
        • tuna, salmon, turkey, black beans, etc.
        • banana, dates, berries, etc.
    • Sleep
      • 8.5 hours "in bed"
      • 7-8 hours of actual sleeping
        • if this is difficult, try "sleep compression"
    • Exercise
      • Strength Training (muscle, bone, heart, lung health)
      • Cardio (heart and lung health)

    Well… for diet, you miss the first and most important point, the energy balance. You have to eat the right amount of calories per day, that’s the foundamental point. You can get this amount eating junk food or good stuff, but they are still calories.

    Yes calories are important for maintaining a healthy weight, but more importantly for overall health, it's what you eat.

    Eating 3000 calories of sugar will be much worse for your body and health than eating 3000 calories of avocado and walnuts.


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    @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    I dont get how white rice is considered bad. 4 billion people eat it as their main source of food every day. None has type 2 diabetes or is obese.

    Regions that eat white rice have insanely high diabetes rates. India, for example, is famous for this. Areas that tend to eat the most rice tend to do so because they are very poor and poverty is typically what affects the obesity.


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    @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    I dont get how white rice is considered bad. 4 billion people eat it as their main source of food every day. None has type 2 diabetes or is obese.

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    At my last job, I worked with a guy who had T2 Diabetes from a lifetime of white rice diet. His doctor specifically mentioned the problems of cultural rice addiction from that part of the world and how this patient, like others of his, would keep eating white rice, regardless of the health risks, even after they knew how bad it was and had gotten diabetes from it. The cultural drive to eat white rice with every meal was so strong that diabetes was just accepted as part and parcel of life.

    I've known a lot of people personally with rice-based Type 2 diabetes.



  • I had no idea. Nearly 30% of some countries have diabetes, incredible. I guess that puts Murica right in the middle.


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    @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    I had no idea. Nearly 30% of some countries have diabetes, incredible. I guess that puts Murica right in the middle.

    The thing about America is that we have such diabetes without the normal global triggers. Unlike countries that are poor and have nothing but rice, we have no good excuse for eating badly.


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    Although, to be truthful, isn't America a world leader in rice production?


  • Service Provider

    Apparently not in total, nor by capita. I know that some places like Arkansas make quite a bit.


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    @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

    I had no idea. Nearly 30% of some countries have diabetes, incredible. I guess that puts Murica right in the middle.

    The thing about America is that we have such diabetes without the normal global triggers. Unlike countries that are poor and have nothing but rice, we have no good excuse for eating badly.

    Right.




 

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