An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer
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I question the wisdom of this even being on the exam. Certainly people taking the exam have a decent chance of seeing Windows 7, but the importance of supporting a dead OS is extremely low (if it has no MS support, why does it need trained Geek Squad support?) and the A+ misses the mark in that people who are studying for the A+ today are trying to get a cert tomorrow for a job down the road. That job is in the future, not the past. But the A+ has always been rooted firmly in teaching about the past rather than the current or the future (where the students where use this information.)
As it is, Windows 7 is eleven releases old. How many old versions of Windows do we need to practically teach? Anyone getting an A+ today is likely to run into Windows XP and maybe Vista, if not older things, but expecting them to know anything about them or be trained on them seems absurd. It's of no value to companies hiring them, nor to the students. Who is this exam desired for? If a company needs to support ancient OS, they likely have plenty of people around with exposure to that. Hiring someone just entering the industry to support something decades older than their careers makes no sense, the industry is full of people with that being their value knowledge point. The value to newbies is that they can know the current stuff. Training newbies to know book smarts about things everyone else in the industry has been exposed to for years is insane.
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it's almost as if A+ is little more than a history lesson.
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@scottalanmiller said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
As it is, Windows 7 is eleven releases old. How many old versions of Windows do we need to practically teach?
While this is technically true (I'm assuming you counted releases correctly, I didn't bother), I haven't seen drastic training differences for the Windows 10 releases so far. as such Windows 10 while having 8 releases, There aren't 8 different training classes for all those versions. That said - the cadence is so fast that training materials alone can't come out fast enough to keep up.
My point is that very few look at Windows 10 and claim a whole 8 versions worth, so claiming they are teaching that many versions worth is seemingly over dramatic at best.
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@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
it's almost as if A+ is little more than a history lesson.
Pretty much.
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@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
My point is that very few look at Windows 10 and claim a whole 8 versions worth, so claiming they are teaching that many versions worth is seemingly over dramatic at best.
That makes it even worse.
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@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
I haven't seen drastic training differences for the Windows 10 releases so far. as such Windows 10 while having 8 releases, There aren't 8 different training classes for all those versions. That said - the cadence is so fast that training materials alone can't come out fast enough to keep up.
But training material has come out, the issue is spending so much time covering legacy OSes. It's hugely wasted training effort that should be used for useful skills rather than lost ones.
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@scottalanmiller said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
I haven't seen drastic training differences for the Windows 10 releases so far. as such Windows 10 while having 8 releases, There aren't 8 different training classes for all those versions. That said - the cadence is so fast that training materials alone can't come out fast enough to keep up.
But training material has come out, the issue is spending so much time covering legacy OSes. It's hugely wasted training effort that should be used for useful skills rather than lost ones.
I don't disagree there. Windows 7 and 8 and 8.1 should all be dropped from A+ at this point. We're almost 4 years into Windows 10. Windows 7 looses support in 8 months, and Windows 8.1 two years after that.
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@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@scottalanmiller said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
I haven't seen drastic training differences for the Windows 10 releases so far. as such Windows 10 while having 8 releases, There aren't 8 different training classes for all those versions. That said - the cadence is so fast that training materials alone can't come out fast enough to keep up.
But training material has come out, the issue is spending so much time covering legacy OSes. It's hugely wasted training effort that should be used for useful skills rather than lost ones.
I don't disagree there. Windows 7 and 8 and 8.1 should all be dropped from A+ at this point. We're almost 4 years into Windows 10. Windows 7 looses support in 8 months, and Windows 8.1 two years after that.
And that's extended support, mainline was over a while ago.
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@scottalanmiller said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@scottalanmiller said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
I haven't seen drastic training differences for the Windows 10 releases so far. as such Windows 10 while having 8 releases, There aren't 8 different training classes for all those versions. That said - the cadence is so fast that training materials alone can't come out fast enough to keep up.
But training material has come out, the issue is spending so much time covering legacy OSes. It's hugely wasted training effort that should be used for useful skills rather than lost ones.
I don't disagree there. Windows 7 and 8 and 8.1 should all be dropped from A+ at this point. We're almost 4 years into Windows 10. Windows 7 looses support in 8 months, and Windows 8.1 two years after that.
And that's extended support, mainline was over a while ago.
LOL - mainline... that's kind of a joke.
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@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@scottalanmiller said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@scottalanmiller said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@Dashrender said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
I haven't seen drastic training differences for the Windows 10 releases so far. as such Windows 10 while having 8 releases, There aren't 8 different training classes for all those versions. That said - the cadence is so fast that training materials alone can't come out fast enough to keep up.
But training material has come out, the issue is spending so much time covering legacy OSes. It's hugely wasted training effort that should be used for useful skills rather than lost ones.
I don't disagree there. Windows 7 and 8 and 8.1 should all be dropped from A+ at this point. We're almost 4 years into Windows 10. Windows 7 looses support in 8 months, and Windows 8.1 two years after that.
And that's extended support, mainline was over a while ago.
LOL - mainline... that's kind of a joke.
No, what's a joke is running any OS for so long that this even comes up!
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I watched it. I used that OS, seems outdated material.
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@mary said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
I watched it. I used that OS, seems outdated material.
Windows 7 is the desktop version of Server 2008 R2 which came out in 2010. So just about a full decade old now!
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Very Interesting, so I think I would better install the Windows 7 64 version for my Pentium 4 of 3.0 GHz with 3 GB of RAM instead of try the crazy idea of install Windows 10 on that computer.
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@brianwinkelmann said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
Very Interesting, so I think I would better install the Windows 7 64 version for my Pentium 4 of 3.0 GHz with 3 GB of RAM instead of try the crazy idea of install Windows 10 on that computer.
Why is that? Windows 7 is ancient, out of support, and heavier than Windows 10. Outside of wanting to remember what it looked like, it would make zero sense to ever install. It's like 12 years old!
And 64bit really, really makes no sense as that's a 32bit machine with only 3GB of RAM. 64bit will just make it so much worse.
Really, there's probably no reason at all to keep a Pentium 4. That's truly so epic-ally old and slow, it just can't be worth it. If you are going to use it and absolutely demand Windows, then only Windows 10 32bit is a real option. But that's just terrible. If you actually want it to have any possible value, then only a Linux option is in any way viable.
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@scottalanmiller Ohh I see it is a good Idea to try LINUX!
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@brianwinkelmann said in An Overview of Windows 7 - CompTIA A+ 220-1002 Prof Messer:
@scottalanmiller Ohh I see it is a good Idea to try LINUX!
Yes, very good time. Something light. Because there are so few resources.
Try this..
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-10.5.0-i386-netinst.iso
