Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync
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Joplin: a free, open, note taking app with built in sync capabilities for things like NextCloud, WebDAV, file systems, etc. that uses MarkDown. It runs on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, and Android. It has command line versions, too.
What I like is that Joplin is easy, fast, and syncs to my NextCloud so that I can take notes wherever I am, and receive them on any of my devices. Sync can be disabled, or set for as frequent as every five minutes.
MarkDown makes taking notes super easy and the same as editing a post on MangoLassi and many wikis (like WikiJS.) The whole app is nice to use and very fast.
One thing that I have to note... this is a single user application. This is not a multi-user system. The sync function is so that it can talk directly to NextCloud, OneDrive, DropBox, or whatever without needing those services to be mounted on your machine so that you have your notes wherever you are. It is not a way for multiple people to collaborate on a single note. While you could certainly use it that way, it would need to be with a single "writer" and multiple "readers". Having multiple people editing notes would cause data loss as the notes overwrite each other. (You could have this worked around if you trusted people by giving a separate document for each user to have their own to write to, and read the ones from other people, I suppose.)
https://joplinapp.org/images/AllClients.jpg
I've been using the app on Fedora and a very happy with it. I'm using mine with NextCloud sync.
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To install Joplin is pretty easy. On iOS or Android, just look for it in your store. It's just an app.
On Windows...
choco install joplinOn Linux (Fedora, Ubuntu, and many others...)
wget -O - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/laurent22/joplin/master/Joplin_install_and_update.sh | bashOn macOS if you have brew...
brew cask install joplin
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Joplin leaves a good amount md files in my Nextcloud account after link it to Nextcloud WebDAV.
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@black3dynamite said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
Joplin leaves a good amount md files in my Nextcloud account after link it to Nextcloud WebDAV.
Yes, it does. I was thinking about posting a "how I use it" link for NC.
I make a Joplin folder under Documents so that all that spew is located in that folder and only in that folder.
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@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
On macOS you need to go to the website and download.
If you have homebrew installed, you can install it using
brew cask install joplin
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@black3dynamite said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
On macOS you need to go to the website and download.
If you have homebrew installed, you can install it using
brew cask install joplinNice, I had looked for that and not seen a brew installer except for the terminal version.
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What would be a dream is if they made a real time sync, with multi-user editing.
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One thing that I love about Joplin is that I can so easily take notes on my Android, laptop, etc. and they just show up on my desktop or vice versa. Really easy for working offline and having everything available to me later when I am online.
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@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
Joplin: a free, open, note taking app with built in sync capabilities for things like NextCloud, WebDAV, file systems, etc. that uses MarkDown. It runs on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, and Android. It has command line versions, too.
What I like is that Joplin is easy, fast, and syncs to my NextCloud so that I can take notes wherever I am, and receive them on any of my devices. Sync can be disabled, or set for as frequent as every five minutes.
MarkDown makes taking notes super easy and the same as editing a post on MangoLassi and many wikis (like WikiJS.) The whole app is nice to use and very fast.
One thing that I have to note... this is a single user application. This is not a multi-user system. The sync function is so that it can talk directly to NextCloud, OneDrive, DropBox, or whatever without needing those services to be mounted on your machine so that you have your notes wherever you are. It is not a way for multiple people to collaborate on a single note. While you could certainly use it that way, it would need to be with a single "writer" and multiple "readers". Having multiple people editing notes would cause data loss as the notes overwrite each other. (You could have this worked around if you trusted people by giving a separate document for each user to have their own to write to, and read the ones from other people, I suppose.)
https://joplinapp.org/images/AllClients.jpg
I've been using the app on Fedora and a very happy with it. I'm using mine with NextCloud sync.
Joplin link is incorrect. Its should be https://joplinapp.org/
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@black3dynamite said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
that link ended up pretty bad, lol
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So Joplin uses AppImage for Linux users.
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Wow, it was so easy to install and start syncing with my Nextcloud instance. ~3 minutes to install via chocolaty and start it syncing with NextCloud's WebDAV.
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I just installed the Android client last night. Sync with Nextcloud works great.
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I am installing this now on my phone. It looks nice.
Even does math notation, though I have no need for that. Not my skill set.
$$
f(x) = \int_{-\infty}^\infty
\hat f(\xi),e^{2 \pi i \xi x}
,d\xi
$$What I would like was if it could sync to multiple sync locations by notebook.
I prefer to keep my personal stuff separate from work.
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What does the edit screen look like?
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How is this better than free OneNote? Being that OneNote has a web interface as well as the mobile apps (iOS and Android) it can work everywhere too.
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- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
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@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that. 99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
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Geo-location support is really nice too.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that. 99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
Guess I am in the 0.01%
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@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that. 99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
Guess I am in the 0.01%
Most people in ML are in the 0.01%, so no real surprise there
If I mentioned a Google OneNote like product to compete against Joplin - then I'd say you need to be worried about it being open source so you could export it out when Google finally decides they are bored with it and kill it.But MS doesn't tend to kill much, I don't see OneNote dieing anytime soon.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that. 99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
Guess I am in the 0.01%
Most people in ML are in the 0.01%, so no real surprise there
If I mentioned a Google OneNote like product to compete against Joplin - then I'd say you need to be worried about it being open source so you could export it out when Google finally decides they are bored with it and kill it.But MS doesn't tend to kill much, I don't see OneNote dieing anytime soon.
Yeah, fuck Google products... I'm still surprised I have not had to move my daerma.com domain off of GSuite yet. I moved it there years and years ago when it was free, and it is still grandfathered in as a free account.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
How is this better than free OneNote? Being that OneNote has a web interface as well as the mobile apps (iOS and Android) it can work everywhere too.
Actually works, data can be pulled out of it, you can back it up really easily, editing is simple, works on devices we actually have.
OneNote has proven to be the number one technical blunder that MQ and Art made introducing at NTG. It's tech designed around trapping you with high cost systems. Once you put your data in, there is no way but a manual recreation to get it out. And it isn't something you can put on any device, I can't install it on my desktop for example, so very limiting even as a non-corporate solution.
I can fathom anyone wanting to use it, and I like note taking apps. There are lots of good ones to ask about, OneNote is the farthest thing from.
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@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that.
It's way, way worse. Gmail has IMAP and you can get your data in a standard format in minutes. While it isn't open source, it is open. No comparison.
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@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
That's not true. Not knowing that open source is what they care about isn't the same as not caring. People care that food is healthy, even if they don't know what makes something healthy. Open source fixes many of the problems people find, they just don't realize that that ist he thing protecting them, btu they certainly care when they find out.
The control doesn't make more work, it makes less. It just is perceived as more because the work is before you start, not when you try to leave.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
How do I use teh web edition offline when at a customer site? That's what I want a note app for, when I'm offline. Otherwise I have the wiki.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
So I didn't know that there was a web edition and I just tried it. This is an easy one... the web edition is painfully slow. Of course the regular edition is slow, painful to actually use. But the web one takes way too long to open. Joplin is lightning fast, something I need for notes.
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@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
How do I use teh web edition offline when at a customer site? That's what I want a note app for, when I'm offline. Otherwise I have the wiki.
OK I didn't consider offline access on a laptop - of course mobile versions solve that.
