Gaming Rig Issues
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Any DVR4 2666 ram will work fine in this unit. Why are you opting to purchase RAM for overclocking?
Well I purchased the 3200 for it, but only reading at 2133. For gaming, wouldn't the faster memory be better.
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Assuming you are using a 2nd gen Ryzen CPU. If you're using an A-Gen you can't go above 2400 MHz.
First Gen, 1700x. From what I saw before 3200 should be fine, but looking it up on AMD site, its 2667.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Any DVR4 2666 ram will work fine in this unit. Why are you opting to purchase RAM for overclocking?
I was going to put the new one in and sell the old one.. But not sure I should do that. I'll have to think about it.. If i can sell the old ones for $250 then I will. This is the one in the system currently , so if anyone wants to buy it, make me an offer.. lol
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
So better to use old school, proven to work, heat sinks over AIO/water cooling
Water cooling is just air cooling with an additional radiator and a closed loop system.
It's air cooling "farther away". haha
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@scottalanmiller air cooling by proxy.
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So to get this back up and running, which cooler would you guys recommend (ignoring price)? I will most likely not over clock system again. Also, if going old school, should I put a fan at the top of the case?
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As long as I can keep temps under 50-60c or so, would it be safe enough to use as is for youtube and internet? or not worth the risk since pump is obviously dead.
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
So to get this back up and running, which cooler would you guys recommend (ignoring price)? I will most likely not over clock system again. Also, if going old school, should I put a fan at the top of the case?
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lol. . . why are you wanting to spend so much money on a Heatsink and fan?
You could get a super basic unit for ~$30 or a large heatsink and fan for maybe $50.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
lol. . . why are you wanting to spend so much money on a Heatsink and fan?
since its RGB...lol.. why, is this considered a small heat sink? Do you have any RGB heatsink recommendations?
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Thanks for all your help guys.. Really appreciate it.. If I was in the other "community" I wouldn't be getting half the help, and would be getting so much crap for so many dumb questions..lol..
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
As long as I can keep temps under 50-60c or so, would it be safe enough to use as is for youtube and internet? or not worth the risk since pump is obviously dead.
That would be within the operating temp of the CPU and would be good for even gaming on.
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
lol. . . why are you wanting to spend so much money on a Heatsink and fan?
since its RGB...lol.. why, is this considered a small heat sink? Do you have any RGB heatsink recommendations?
But it's still a "proxy cooling system".
Just get a large copper/aluminum heatsink and connect it directly to the board.
If you really want you can add additional case fans, but they likely aren't required.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
lol. . . why are you wanting to spend so much money on a Heatsink and fan?
since its RGB...lol.. why, is this considered a small heat sink? Do you have any RGB heatsink recommendations?
But it's still a "proxy cooling system".
Just get a large copper/aluminum heatsink and connect it directly to the board.
If you really want you can add additional case fans, but they likely aren't required.
Water is more effective than air at thermal transfer, so the theory goes. Today the only real difference is that you can have a much larger surface area and multiple fans covering that area compared to air cooling. If the water block is only large enough to have space to mount a single fan, or 2 fans on the same plane (push/pull), then air coolers are actually more efficient for less money.
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Think of the heatsink like this.
If proxy systems like this were better, every server system in the world would use it. They don't though. Heatsinks on things that get hot, with fans.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
That would be within the operating temp of the CPU and would be good for even gaming on.
OK, I may setup the Corsair software to shutdown when it his 60c to be on the safe side until I can get a replacement cooler in.
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
But it's still a "proxy cooling system".
Just get a large copper/aluminum heatsink and connect it directly to the board.
If you really want you can add additional case fans, but they likely aren't required.Sorry, I'm lost, what do you mean by Proxy Cooling System?
I currently have 2 fans in the front pulling air front to back, and one fan in the rear pulling the air out.
I can add 1 or 2 to the top where the AIO unit is currently at. I still have the large fan (240 or 280) that came with the case for the top of the unit. This is his case.
From what I understand, water cooling isn't really that great. or at least AIO systems. I am guessing for the long term, since I will be moving old school heat sink will be the best since the current pump went out after 1.5 years.
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@travisdh1 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Water is more effective than air at thermal transfer, so the theory goes.
Got you!.. "Theory" of the Manufactures to charge more.. haha
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@travisdh1 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
lol. . . why are you wanting to spend so much money on a Heatsink and fan?
since its RGB...lol.. why, is this considered a small heat sink? Do you have any RGB heatsink recommendations?
But it's still a "proxy cooling system".
Just get a large copper/aluminum heatsink and connect it directly to the board.
If you really want you can add additional case fans, but they likely aren't required.
Water is more effective than air at thermal transfer, so the theory goes. Today the only real difference is that you can have a much larger surface area and multiple fans covering that area compared to air cooling. If the water block is only large enough to have space to mount a single fan, or 2 fans on the same plane (push/pull), then air coolers are actually more efficient for less money.
It is, but the water has to be cooled by air. So that "theory" is a sales tactic. It's a gimmick. There are two values to water coolers...
- It shifts the primary location of the cooling system from inside the case to the edge allowing the air cooling area to be larger.
- It itself is a large "heat well" allowing more buffer in case of failure.
That's it.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Think of the heatsink like this.
If proxy systems like this were better, every server system in the world would use it. They don't though. Heatsinks on things that get hot, with fans.Thanks, you just answered my question to above..
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@travisdh1 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
lol. . . why are you wanting to spend so much money on a Heatsink and fan?
since its RGB...lol.. why, is this considered a small heat sink? Do you have any RGB heatsink recommendations?
But it's still a "proxy cooling system".
Just get a large copper/aluminum heatsink and connect it directly to the board.
If you really want you can add additional case fans, but they likely aren't required.
Water is more effective than air at thermal transfer, so the theory goes. Today the only real difference is that you can have a much larger surface area and multiple fans covering that area compared to air cooling. If the water block is only large enough to have space to mount a single fan, or 2 fans on the same plane (push/pull), then air coolers are actually more efficient for less money.
Sure, but these big box cooling systems don't have a ton of space to add more fans.
It's a limited amount of surface space.
Now if you were to add extremely high RPM fans and push it out of the case with airflow controls then there would be some value add. These units generally though are on par (maybe just slightly) better than a classic cooler.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
If proxy systems like this were better, every server system in the world would use it. They don't though. Heatsinks on things that get hot, with fans.
Big ones do, like mainframes and really high end data centers. They do this for the reasons that I specified...
They use the water to transfer the heat to giant roof top cooling towers. That's all. It's a scale thing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Think of the heatsink like this.
If proxy systems like this were better, every server system in the world would use it. They don't though. Heatsinks on things that get hot, with fans.
Many datacenters use water cooling, some exclusively. It's more efficient at scale than air cooling.
