Free Veeam for DGraph Linux Restore
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.
It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.
Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.
It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.
Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.
That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.
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A "service" on Linux is called a dæmon.
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What command are you using to shut down Dgraph? And is this part of a cluster?
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@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
I dont think so...
The host is HyperV server. Doesn't Veeam Zip require a license for use, or to be able to set a backup schedule...
You can just create a custom powershell script and use Windows task manager to run it on a schedule.
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This is the command for a Dgraph backup...
curl localhost:8080/admin/backup -
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.
It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.
Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.
That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.
Thats what I thought. Any free tools I can look in to?
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
This is the command for a Dgraph backup...
curl localhost:8080/admin/backupI found that yesterday, we are thinking about using this whilst also looking for other options. Ideally we would use this for a backup at the application level, but also something like Veeam Linux Free to allow us to quickly restore the VM should we need to, rather than use the backup file from DGraph.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
What command are you using to shut down Dgraph? And is this part of a cluster?
Not part of a cluster. Our development team are using this from the VM its self:
curl localhost:8080/admin/shutdown
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@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.
It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.
Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.
That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.
Thats what I thought. Any free tools I can look in to?
Not that I know of. Nor will it make a difference. Its a false path. VM layer backups dont solve open file issues.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
This is the command for a Dgraph backup...
curl localhost:8080/admin/backupI found that yesterday, we are thinking about using this whilst also looking for other options. Ideally we would use this for a backup at the application level, but also something like Veeam Linux Free to allow us to quickly restore the VM should we need to, rather than use the backup file from DGraph.
Thats not a good path. Backup you data and be able to restore quickly through normal processes. You can still recover quickly uaing the proper tools. You cant work around them.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.
It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.
Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.
That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.
Thats what I thought. Any free tools I can look in to?
Not that I know of. Nor will it make a difference. Its a false path. VM layer backups dont solve open file issues.
I thought that was the issue too, thats why I tested after shutting down the software using: curl localhost:8080/admin/shutdown
Must be something open then. I thought that the command would shut down the DGraph server, release all files... so then the image made by Veeam is good. But after trying it this just didnt work...
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@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
What command are you using to shut down Dgraph? And is this part of a cluster?
Not part of a cluster. Our development team are using this from the VM its self:
curl localhost:8080/admin/shutdown
That "should" bring it down.
I wonder if something else is using Badger.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.
It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.
Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.
That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.
Thats what I thought. Any free tools I can look in to?
Not that I know of. Nor will it make a difference. Its a false path. VM layer backups dont solve open file issues.
I thought that was the issue too, thats why I tested after shutting down the software using: curl localhost:8080/admin/shutdown
Must be something open then. I thought that the command would shut down the DGraph server, release all files... so then the image made by Veeam is good. But after trying it this just didnt work...
You can use LSOF to query the data files and see what is holding them open.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
What command are you using to shut down Dgraph? And is this part of a cluster?
Not part of a cluster. Our development team are using this from the VM its self:
curl localhost:8080/admin/shutdown
That "should" bring it down.
I wonder if something else is using Badger.
Possibly. Our dev guy is back in tomorrow so will look in to this.
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Why no cluster? Not enough hardware?
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This is an example of where modern Devsops backups solve these problems. If you do that way this whole thing is resolved.
Databases are ideal for this. Backup using the only working tool, the built in one. Build the box itself with a state engine like Ansible. Now your restore is faster and safer and your backups faster and smaller. Win win win.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
Why no cluster? Not enough hardware?
I imagine that will be the end position. But, the decision is not under my control and as it stands its the single instance. We have the hardware though.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
Why no cluster? Not enough hardware?
I imagine that will be the end position. But, the decision is not under my control and as it stands its the single instance. We have the hardware though.
But your backup thought process is 100% dependent on there never being a cluster. So if thats a possibility you have to plan for it
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:
Why no cluster? Not enough hardware?
I imagine that will be the end position. But, the decision is not under my control and as it stands its the single instance. We have the hardware though.
But your backup thought process is 100% dependent on there never being a cluster. So if thats a possibility you have to plan for it
That is correct. Will have a chat when the dev guy is in tomorrow to see where this is going.
