Buying new business desktops - what do you like?
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Lenovo V520 Tower without OS
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@penguinwrangler said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell, HP, Fujitsu, whatever you prefer.
Have you ever bought Fujitsu? They always seem good by the specs and price.
I had a Fujitsu Lifebook laptop (500 mHz P2)... That little thing was a beast. I'd have no qualms about buying another.
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@dafyre said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@penguinwrangler said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell, HP, Fujitsu, whatever you prefer.
Have you ever bought Fujitsu? They always seem good by the specs and price.
I had a Fujitsu Lifebook laptop (500 mHz P2)... That little thing was a beast. I'd have no qualms about buying another.
Good to know.
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@penguinwrangler said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell, HP, Fujitsu, whatever you prefer.
Have you ever bought Fujitsu? They always seem good by the specs and price.
Lots of them. Celsius (workstations), Esprimo (desktops), Primergy (servers) and all kinds of notebooks. Good quality, not any better or worse than HP or Dell.
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We're a Dell shop and have a variety of Inspirons and Optiplexes.
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@eddiejennings said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
We're a Dell shop and have a variety of Inspirons and Optiplexes.
Do you prefer Inspirions over Latitudes?
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@black3dynamite said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@eddiejennings said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
We're a Dell shop and have a variety of Inspirons and Optiplexes.
Do you prefer Inspirions over Latitudes?
I wasn't clear. All laptops (except for 1) are Latitudes. The Inspirons are most of our old desktops. New desktops tend to be Optiplexes. If I were buying today, I might not even use Optiplexes, as these users really don't need a beefy machine.
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@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Lenovo V520 Tower without OS
Haha... no.
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@dafyre said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@penguinwrangler said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell, HP, Fujitsu, whatever you prefer.
Have you ever bought Fujitsu? They always seem good by the specs and price.
I had a Fujitsu Lifebook laptop (500 mHz P2)... That little thing was a beast. I'd have no qualms about buying another.
Still have an Lifebook C6565 which still works, expect for the battery. P3 700
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We have Lenovo laptops. I don't recommend Lenovo laptops. We're getting rid of all of the Lenovo laptops.
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@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Lenovo V520 Tower without OS
Are you trolling?
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Thinkmate makes some nice hardware.
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White box is a decent option.
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@dashrender said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Lenovo V520 Tower without OS
Are you trolling?
I have to do Lenovo in the same region that he's in, they are the major supplier there.
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Another vote for optiplex micro, very nice built and quiet machines.
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@nerdydad said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
We have Lenovo laptops. I don't recommend Lenovo laptops. We're getting rid of all of the Lenovo laptops.
What series ? cause not all Lenovo hardware is bad, the T series we have are very good and durable.
We still have many operational T420 (operational since 2012/2013) that are the legacy line of IBM thinkpads.
The new stuff are meh.
And i dont understand the hate really for Lenovo, sure they did spyware crap (everybody does this, some get caught some dont, latest one is from HP keylogging) but you just have to do fresh-install, and I think this spyware crap what allows lenovo to release good spec hardware for cheap in my region, I recall having Lenovo smartphone A6000, and it was filled with crapware but very cheap. Anyway I have never came across scenario where a clean fresh OS didnt behave like clean fresh OS. I have heard with spyware that gets attached in the BIOS flash image but never encountered this yet.
However that said I wish I have OEM that provides their drivers as .inf files, or for them to be as light and least intrusive as possible, especially with laptops, now you have driver and software GUI + service for monitoring the monitor, and for FN keys, and for battery optimization, and for HDD software shock monitoring, if you ask me there all gimmicks, or they need to be better grouped.
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@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
And i dont understand the hate really for Lenovo, sure they did spyware crap (everybody does this, some get caught some dont, latest one is from HP keylogging) but you just have to do fresh-install, and I think this spyware crap what allows lenovo to release good spec hardware for cheap in my region, I recall having Lenovo smartphone A6000, and it was filled with crapware but very cheap. Anyway I have never came across scenario where a clean fresh OS didnt behave like clean fresh OS. I have heard with spyware that gets attached in the BIOS flash image but never encountered this yet.
However that said I wish I have OEM that provides their drivers as .inf files, or for them to be as light and least intrusive as possible, especially with laptops, now you have driver and software GUI + service for monitoring the monitor, and for FN keys, and for battery optimization, and for HDD software shock monitoring, if you ask me there all gimmicks, or they need to be better grouped.The (spy|crap|bloat)ware (or a downloader for it) was stored in UEFI. You can reinstall as much as you want in this case.
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@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Anyway I have never came across scenario where a clean fresh OS didn't behave like clean fresh OS. I have heard with spyware that gets attached in the BIOS flash image but never encountered this yet.
Then you haven't been paying attention to the news. The spyware/bloatware that was installed was done so at the driver level and put a shim between the network device and operating system. Even on a fresh-os install the driver would have been a problem.
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@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
And i dont understand the hate really for Lenovo, sure they did spyware crap (everybody does this, some get caught some dont, latest one is from HP keylogging) but you just have to do fresh-install.....
This is totally wrong and shows why Lenovo is so bad, they've produced such a load of marketing to convince people that their crimes were totally different than they were. There is NO ONE ever that has done things as bad as Lenovo and NO IT person ever has the power to work around the things that Lenovo did. This is just hubris. Sometimes Lenovo cannot be avoided and sometimes spying and stealing data is something you have to accept to have working computers...
But you should never claim that Lenovo is ever okay, ever good gear, ever safe, or ever comparable to the evils of any other company. There is nothing in the history of IT that comes close to what Lenovo has been caught, repeatedly, doing. Nothing.
If you don't instantly understand why everyone hates Lenovo, it means that you aren't aware of what they do. It's that simple. It means you've not looked into them enough. Now, if you understand clearly why no one will ever respect or trust Lenovo and still use them because you have no other choice, that's fine. But right now, you are using the most dangerous vendor in the history of the industry, literally allowing one of the most malicious hacking entities in the world, into your shop voluntarily without having looked into why they are this way and how they may affect you.
