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@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
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@nashbrydges said in Intranet suggestions....:
Any of these options recommended for a multi-client scenario? Would need authentication so each client only accesses their own documentation.
Yes drupal can do that. Wiki.js can have roles and users that have access to specific areas but I've noticed if you search for something, the search show up in the bar from areas they don't have access to. They can't get there, but the titles and such show up.
Search is so often a week point in security, argh. If all you are doing is hiding passwords or details, it often works fine. If you are hiding concepts, it's useless.
Ya I was really disappointed when I saw that. So you need multiple sites for separation, which sucks.
Is it still an issue if Wiki.js is not setup for public access?
Yes because you don't want clients seeing info for other clients. And we were going to use it for a user area and an internal documentation site. But that won't work now.
I suppose I could try the multi-tenant feature in Alfresco. Not exactly what I wanted but might work.
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@nashbrydges said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@scottalanmiller said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@nashbrydges said in Intranet suggestions....:
Any of these options recommended for a multi-client scenario? Would need authentication so each client only accesses their own documentation.
Yes drupal can do that. Wiki.js can have roles and users that have access to specific areas but I've noticed if you search for something, the search show up in the bar from areas they don't have access to. They can't get there, but the titles and such show up.
Search is so often a week point in security, argh. If all you are doing is hiding passwords or details, it often works fine. If you are hiding concepts, it's useless.
Ya I was really disappointed when I saw that. So you need multiple sites for separation, which sucks.
Is it still an issue if Wiki.js is not setup for public access?
Yes because you don't want clients seeing info for other clients. And we were going to use it for a user area and an internal documentation site. But that won't work now.
I suppose I could try the multi-tenant feature in Alfresco. Not exactly what I wanted but might work.
Phone might work.
https://plone.org/ -
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
I'll recommend Drupal. It's the most flexible and you can build anything. It's great for very simple sites or really complex ones.
I'm apparently one of the few that has much more experience with Drupal than Wordpress. Too be fair tho, when we moved to Drupal originally it was moving off of Joomla, which would make just about anything else look good by comparison.
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@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
I'll recommend Drupal. It's the most flexible and you can build anything. It's great for very simple sites or really complex ones.
I'm apparently one of the few that has much more experience with Drupal than Wordpress. Too be fair tho, when we moved to Drupal originally it was moving off of Joomla, which would make just about anything else look good by comparison.
To me it seems to get the benefits Drupal offers over Wordpress, you have to sit down and spend a lot of time coding shit. Otherwise I'd just install a plugin to Wordpress to get what I need.
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@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
I'll recommend Drupal. It's the most flexible and you can build anything. It's great for very simple sites or really complex ones.
I'm apparently one of the few that has much more experience with Drupal than Wordpress. Too be fair tho, when we moved to Drupal originally it was moving off of Joomla, which would make just about anything else look good by comparison.
To me it seems to get the benefits Drupal offers over Wordpress, you have to sit down and spend a lot of time coding shit. Otherwise I'd just install a plugin to Wordpress to get what I need.
That's how I feel about it Drupal too. And Wordpress is so much easier for my users too.
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@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
I'll recommend Drupal. It's the most flexible and you can build anything. It's great for very simple sites or really complex ones.
I'm apparently one of the few that has much more experience with Drupal than Wordpress. Too be fair tho, when we moved to Drupal originally it was moving off of Joomla, which would make just about anything else look good by comparison.
To me it seems to get the benefits Drupal offers over Wordpress, you have to sit down and spend a lot of time coding shit. Otherwise I'd just install a plugin to Wordpress to get what I need.
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it. So at least for me, it was just about the same experience. I happen to use it for my personal site because I already knew it very well. I'm sure Wordpress would be just as easy once I learned where everything was in the menus.
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@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
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@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
I'll recommend Drupal. It's the most flexible and you can build anything. It's great for very simple sites or really complex ones.
I'm apparently one of the few that has much more experience with Drupal than Wordpress. Too be fair tho, when we moved to Drupal originally it was moving off of Joomla, which would make just about anything else look good by comparison.
To me it seems to get the benefits Drupal offers over Wordpress, you have to sit down and spend a lot of time coding shit. Otherwise I'd just install a plugin to Wordpress to get what I need.
You don't need to do any coding at all. It's all built through the interface.
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@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress. It's two different architectures. One is a blogging platform that can do static sites. The other is a CMF that you can build your own CMS or web app.
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@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress. It's two different architectures. One is a blogging platform that can do static sites. The other is a CMF that you can build your own CMS or web app.
Is the only place to find modules for Drupal?
https://www.drupal.org/project/project_moduleA good amount of plugins for Wordpress can be found and installed directly from Wordpress installation.
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@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress. It's two different architectures. One is a blogging platform that can do static sites. The other is a CMF that you can build your own CMS or web app.
Is the place to find modules for Drupal?
https://www.drupal.org/project/project_moduleA good amount of plugins for Wordpress can be found and installed directly from Wordpress installation.
Ya that's where they all are. There are some defaults that you can enable from an initial install but that has all of them. You just copy the link and paste it in your Drupal site to install the module.
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@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress. It's two different architectures. One is a blogging platform that can do static sites. The other is a CMF that you can build your own CMS or web app.
Is the place to find modules for Drupal?
https://www.drupal.org/project/project_moduleA good amount of plugins for Wordpress can be found and installed directly from Wordpress installation.
Ya that's where they all are. There are some defaults that you can enable from an initial install but that has all of them. You just copy the link and paste it in your Drupal site to install the module.
You can also just unzip a module in the modules dir and it's installed.
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@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress. It's two different architectures. One is a blogging platform that can do static sites. The other is a CMF that you can build your own CMS or web app.
Is the place to find modules for Drupal?
https://www.drupal.org/project/project_moduleA good amount of plugins for Wordpress can be found and installed directly from Wordpress installation.
Ya that's where they all are. There are some defaults that you can enable from an initial install but that has all of them. You just copy the link and paste it in your Drupal site to install the module.
You can also just unzip a module in the modules dir and it's installed.
Can I update the modules that is currently installed from the GUI too?
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@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress. It's two different architectures. One is a blogging platform that can do static sites. The other is a CMF that you can build your own CMS or web app.
Is the place to find modules for Drupal?
https://www.drupal.org/project/project_moduleA good amount of plugins for Wordpress can be found and installed directly from Wordpress installation.
Ya that's where they all are. There are some defaults that you can enable from an initial install but that has all of them. You just copy the link and paste it in your Drupal site to install the module.
You can also just unzip a module in the modules dir and it's installed.
Can I update the modules that is currently installed from the GUI too?
Yes. However to update Drupal core you need to either download the new code base and replace the old one or just use Drush which is a command line tool. You can just run
drush upand it will update everything. I think Drupal 8 is supposed to have built in core updates but between Drush and Pantheon I've never needed it. Pantheon is amazing because they pull in all of the code updates and you just click the button and it updates your site. -
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
One is a blogging platform that can do static sites.
WordPress is a full CMS.
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress.
I do agree with this.
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@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
One is a blogging platform that can do static sites.
WordPress is a full CMS.
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress.
I do agree with this.
Right they're a CMS that does blogging and static pages. Drupal is a full CMF.
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@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
One is a blogging platform that can do static sites.
WordPress is a full CMS.
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress.
I do agree with this.
Right they're a CMS that does blogging and static pages.
All CMSs do...
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@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
One is a blogging platform that can do static sites.
WordPress is a full CMS.
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress.
I do agree with this.
Right they're a CMS that does blogging and static pages.
All CMSs do...
That was my point. Drupal does a ton more since it's not just a CMS.
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@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
One is a blogging platform that can do static sites.
WordPress is a full CMS.
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress.
I do agree with this.
Right they're a CMS that does blogging and static pages.
All CMSs do...
That was my point. Drupal does a ton more since it's not just a CMS.
What's some things Drupal does besides static pages and blogging, that you just can't have WordPress do by itself or via plugins?
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@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@black3dynamite said in Intranet suggestions....:
@stacksofplates said in Intranet suggestions....:
@tim_g said in Intranet suggestions....:
@travisdh1 said in Intranet suggestions....:
Everything I needed to do with Drupal, someone already had a plugin made that did it.
Yeah, same with WordPress... so in that case Drupal provides no benefit over WordPress, except for the fact you are more familiar with Drupal being the only reason to use it.
The modules in Drupal are more powerful than the plugins for WordPress. It's two different architectures. One is a blogging platform that can do static sites. The other is a CMF that you can build your own CMS or web app.
Is the place to find modules for Drupal?
https://www.drupal.org/project/project_moduleA good amount of plugins for Wordpress can be found and installed directly from Wordpress installation.
Ya that's where they all are. There are some defaults that you can enable from an initial install but that has all of them. You just copy the link and paste it in your Drupal site to install the module.
You can also just unzip a module in the modules dir and it's installed.
Can I update the modules that is currently installed from the GUI too?
Yes. However to update Drupal core you need to either download the new code base and replace the old one or just use Drush which is a command line tool. You can just run
drush upand it will update everything. I think Drupal 8 is supposed to have built in core updates but between Drush and Pantheon I've never needed it. Pantheon is amazing because they pull in all of the code updates and you just click the button and it updates your site.Pantheon even supports Wordpress too.
