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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @jrc
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      @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

      Windows 7 VM used for their crappy industry specific software.

      This would violate the Windows client licensing as you said it in the quote.

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      • jrcJ
        jrc @Obsolesce
        last edited by jrc

        @tim_g said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

        @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

        Windows 7 VM used for their crappy industry specific software.

        This would violate the Windows client licensing as you said it in the quote.

        As I said it in the quote? I am not following.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @jrc
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          @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

          @scottalanmiller said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

          NethServer

          Got it. I am completely open to which way I take this. My personal preference on a distro would be Ubuntu, but it does not have to be that. I am hoping to get something that is "easy" to administer and a turnkey solution would be best I think. A nice GUI would be great.

          Nethserver does not seem to say anything about AD , and it looks to do WAY more than I'd need it to, there is no need for content filtering, firewalling, VPN etc. Just AD.

          If Nethserver is the free one, i used it a little a long time ago and nothing is enabled unless you do it. So that the functionality is there, but only if you want it.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @jrc
            last edited by

            @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

            @tim_g said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

            @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

            Windows 7 VM used for their crappy industry specific software.

            This would violate the Windows client licensing as you said it in the quote.

            As I said it in the quote? I am not following.

            What you said implies, to me, that it's going to provide a service to users. This goes against Windows client licensing, and would require a Server license.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @tim_g said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

              @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

              @scottalanmiller said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

              NethServer

              Got it. I am completely open to which way I take this. My personal preference on a distro would be Ubuntu, but it does not have to be that. I am hoping to get something that is "easy" to administer and a turnkey solution would be best I think. A nice GUI would be great.

              Nethserver does not seem to say anything about AD , and it looks to do WAY more than I'd need it to, there is no need for content filtering, firewalling, VPN etc. Just AD.

              If Nethserver is the free one, i used it a little a long time ago and nothing is enabled unless you do it. So that the functionality is there, but only if you want it.

              Yes, I've used it before and it is "all off" by default. You have to add each and every function that you want to enable.

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              • jrcJ
                jrc @Obsolesce
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                @tim_g

                Ahh, gotcha. Yes it does supply a service. However the company that makes the software could care less about Windows client licensing, and as a franchisee they have zero options on using this software.

                And running it on a server has proven to be very complicated, especially for support as their support guys are completely gun shy when they see the SBS logo on a remote session. 99.99% of their franchises merely run the software on Windows 7 (Was XP, until earlier this year).

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @jrc
                  last edited by

                  @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

                  @tim_g

                  Ahh, gotcha. Yes it does supply a service. However the company that makes the software could care less about Windows client licensing, and as a franchisee they have zero options on using this software.

                  And running it on a server has proven to be very complicated, especially for support as their support guys are completely gun shy when they see the SBS logo on a remote session. 99.99% of their franchises merely run the software on Windows 7 (Was XP, until earlier this year).

                  This gives you a pretty much guaranteed way for you to call in an anonymous tip to the BSA. And worth telling your management that not only your own employees, but all employees of all of your competitors, plus the employees of one of your vendors, all have the option of retaliation via the BSA if they wanted.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @jrc
                    last edited by

                    @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

                    However the company that makes the software could care less about Windows client licensing, and as a franchisee they have zero options on using this software.

                    Of course they don't care, the responsibility for that falls 100% onto the end client to ensure that they have properly licensed their environment. The vendor has zero responsibility here.

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                      flaxking
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                      Forget about Zentyal, it was bad back when I tried it (interface so buggy). Just using straight Samba isn't that bad, and it might be easier to follow the documentation to plan out what you want.

                      You might have to use samba-tool anyway to do what you want with Nethserver. I haven't used Nethserver, but I've looked into it, and that is the direction I would point you too if you want a GUI.

                      I would say Nethserver is like Windows Server, there's prepackaged roles that you can install, but you only install the roles you require for the purpose you've given the server.

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

                        @jrc said in AD Emulation on *Nix:

                        However the company that makes the software could care less about Windows client licensing, and as a franchisee they have zero options on using this software.

                        Of course they don't care, the responsibility for that falls 100% onto the end client to ensure that they have properly licensed their environment. The vendor has zero responsibility here.

                        Reminds me of a PBX appliance vendor that shipped their "server" with Windows XP Pro as the OS. 😉

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