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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      Passmark shows the i7 at 10803 and the i5 at 8889. But as I rarely care abotu this, I do not know what their benchmark value even means.
      https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-7600+%40+3.50GHz
      https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700+%40+3.60GHz

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by JaredBusch

        This show much faster mulit-core speed, but how many user processes are multi-core?

        http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600/3887vs3890

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

          This show much faster mulit-core speed, but how many user processes are multi-core?

          http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600/3887vs3890

          A lot, actually. It's more common than you'd think.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

              Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

              Not likely, $170 is a lot.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

                Not likely, $170 is a lot.

                That is my initial thought, except the Dells this client bought in 2013 were i7. So I have user perception to deal with.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                  @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                  Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

                  Not likely, $170 is a lot.

                  That is my initial thought, except the Dells this client bought in 2013 were i7. So I have user perception to deal with.

                  Just don't tell them šŸ˜‰

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                      Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

                      That works until someone demands to know.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Intel CPU question:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                        Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

                        That works until someone demands to know.

                        unless it is the owner just don't tell them.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in Intel CPU question:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                          Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

                          That works until someone demands to know.

                          The decision maker at this client is decently well versed in understanding IT terminology.

                          I will probably let him decide and just present both and say the benchmarks do not really support the extra cost.

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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper
                            last edited by

                            Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Reid Cooper
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

                              Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

                              One of them does CAD, the rest will barely be taxed day to day. My recommendation was not to upgrade.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                So this is what I am sending off to my preferred VAR.

                                Desktops: Quantity 9
                                Option A:
                                HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
                                Windows 10 Pro
                                Intel Core i5 7600
                                16GB RAM
                                256 GB SSD
                                Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
                                No optical drive
                                HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

                                Option B:
                                HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
                                Windows 10 Pro
                                Intel Core i7 7700
                                16GB RAM
                                256 GB SSD
                                Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
                                No optical drive
                                HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

                                For the memory in both of these desktop options, if it is more cost effective to get 8GB and an additional 8GB separate, please quote it as such.

                                Laptop: Quantity 1
                                Make it the same as the one just ordered for IPMA

                                Monitors: Quantity 13
                                Option A:
                                HP V273a

                                Option B:
                                HP 27sv

                                Similar model 27ā€ monitors are acceptable. These were pulled from HP’s website.
                                Display port to HDMI needed per monitor as the EliteDesk has 2 Display Ports and both of these monitors have HDMI

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m
                                  last edited by

                                  Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                                    last edited by

                                    @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

                                    Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.

                                    Generally the alternative is 8GB, which can easily be too little.

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                                    • wrx7mW
                                      wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller I have been giving out 8 for several years now. Maybe it is time to check my users' utilization. I am sure that some people could benefit from more but I would be surprised if most were above 60%.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        I do okay on 8GB, but I only run two browsers, no apps, and do it on Linux.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller I have 32GB on Windows 8.1 (will be getting a new system soon with 10) and I can get to over 55% with heavy browser usage. I use the hell out of this rig.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                                            last edited by

                                            @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

                                            @scottalanmiller I have 32GB on Windows 8.1 (will be getting a new system soon with 10) and I can get to over 55% with heavy browser usage. I use the hell out of this rig.

                                            If I'm on windows, I need over 8GB. On Linux, 8GB does just fine.

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