Intel CPU question
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@reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:
Higher clock speed, more cache.
Right, but the performance specs I am seeing are not very different
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Passmark shows the i7 at 10803 and the i5 at 8889. But as I rarely care abotu this, I do not know what their benchmark value even means.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-7600+%40+3.50GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700+%40+3.60GHz -
This show much faster mulit-core speed, but how many user processes are multi-core?
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600/3887vs3890
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@jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:
This show much faster mulit-core speed, but how many user processes are multi-core?
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600/3887vs3890
A lot, actually. It's more common than you'd think.
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Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.
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@jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:
Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.
Not likely, $170 is a lot.
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@scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:
@jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:
Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.
Not likely, $170 is a lot.
That is my initial thought, except the Dells this client bought in 2013 were i7. So I have user perception to deal with.
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@jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:
@scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:
@jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:
Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.
Not likely, $170 is a lot.
That is my initial thought, except the Dells this client bought in 2013 were i7. So I have user perception to deal with.
Just don't tell them
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Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.
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@scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:
Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.
That works until someone demands to know.
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@dashrender said in Intel CPU question:
@scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:
Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.
That works until someone demands to know.
unless it is the owner just don't tell them.
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@dashrender said in Intel CPU question:
@scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:
Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.
That works until someone demands to know.
The decision maker at this client is decently well versed in understanding IT terminology.
I will probably let him decide and just present both and say the benchmarks do not really support the extra cost.
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Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?
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@reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:
Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?
One of them does CAD, the rest will barely be taxed day to day. My recommendation was not to upgrade.
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So this is what I am sending off to my preferred VAR.
Desktops: Quantity 9
Option A:
HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
Windows 10 Pro
Intel Core i5 7600
16GB RAM
256 GB SSD
Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
No optical drive
HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and MouseOption B:
HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
Windows 10 Pro
Intel Core i7 7700
16GB RAM
256 GB SSD
Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
No optical drive
HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and MouseFor the memory in both of these desktop options, if it is more cost effective to get 8GB and an additional 8GB separate, please quote it as such.
Laptop: Quantity 1
Make it the same as the one just ordered for IPMAMonitors: Quantity 13
Option A:
HP V273aOption B:
HP 27svSimilar model 27ā monitors are acceptable. These were pulled from HPās website.
Display port to HDMI needed per monitor as the EliteDesk has 2 Display Ports and both of these monitors have HDMI -
Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.
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@wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:
Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.
Generally the alternative is 8GB, which can easily be too little.
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@scottalanmiller I have been giving out 8 for several years now. Maybe it is time to check my users' utilization. I am sure that some people could benefit from more but I would be surprised if most were above 60%.
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I do okay on 8GB, but I only run two browsers, no apps, and do it on Linux.
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@scottalanmiller I have 32GB on Windows 8.1 (will be getting a new system soon with 10) and I can get to over 55% with heavy browser usage. I use the hell out of this rig.
