Three Word Address
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
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@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
Modern apps.... third world countries barely have electricity. Much less a phone to send their exact location to emergency responders.
Which, oddly, isn't true. They have no electricity but even tribes in Africa and Australia have cell or sat phones. It's been well documented.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
Modern apps.... third world countries barely have electricity. Much less a phone to send their exact location to emergency responders.
Let's try this another way... you have no electronic devices. You are alongside the road and are injured.
How will you know the three word code to scream into the air without a digital device to generate it for you?
The three word system only works under conditions where you don't need the three word system.
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I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
Modern apps.... third world countries barely have electricity. Much less a phone to send their exact location to emergency responders.
Which, oddly, isn't true. They have no electricity but even tribes in Africa and Australia have cell or sat phones. It's been well documented.
I was working on a project that was created by that fact in central Africa last weekend!
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Think of it like this,
How many people right now can list their exact latitude and longitude ?
With a system like this, you can simply remember it.
All of us. that's my point exactly.
Bullshit.
Off the top of your head give me your exact latitude longitude and minutes.
No Cheating.
Why would I want to do that? I have a device I'm typing at and in my pocket that can give me that information at the tap of the screen or click of a button. Why would I want to memorize useless information?
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Think of it like this,
How many people right now can list their exact latitude and longitude ?
With a system like this, you can simply remember it.
All of us. that's my point exactly.
Bullshit.
Off the top of your head give me your exact latitude longitude and minutes.
No Cheating.
You didn't say off of the top of my head, you cheated. I dont' know three words either. You made our point, clearly.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I did actually, long ago. It's not new. But more silly today than when they came up with it.
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The three word concept was come up with from a different era when ubiquitous GPS sharing wasn't yet a thing. The use case for it has all but evaporated and the implementation of the system is so enourmous that it can't be done reasonably. It requires a lot of technology in places where you can't get adoption, so while an interesting idea, it really has no real world applicablility. Neat research, but ultimately a waste of time. No one has taken implementing it seriously.
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The system is four years old. And here are some important complaints: "Supporters of open standards denounce the what3words system for being controlled by a private business and the software for being copyrighted and thus not freely usable. The fact that similar addresses are purposefully far away from each other is also seen by some as a disadvantage. What3words reserves the right to change their list of words and will not be responsible for the consequences. The square size is fixed, limiting location accuracy to 3 metres. The grid is two-dimensional, so the addressing scheme does not distinguish between floors in a building. The system supports 14 languages, although each language covers the world's entire land areas."
Bit in bold = system is useless.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
The grid is two-dimensional, so the addressing scheme does not distinguish between floors in a building.
This was my second question upon reading the transcript. How do you move up or down? Would you add a 4th word for every 3 meters you move upward?
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
The grid is two-dimensional, so the addressing scheme does not distinguish between floors in a building.
This was my second question upon reading the transcript. How do you move up or down? Would you add a 4th word for every 3 meters you move upward?
You can just use numbers for altitude if necessary.
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Although GPS has the same limitations. It would be pretty easy to add elevation to the location list in modern messaging apps as well.
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The whole thing is a hokey mapping of words to GPS. It's like WINS, but if WINS was gibberish and we already had DNS that worked great.
Bottom line is... there is no problem to solve. But rather a bad solution to no problem.
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OK, I see what Scott's getting at. Since GPS is pretty much everywhere now, and the 3 word system requires the use of GPS/App, there's no reason you can't simply use GPS coordinates, because the device will tell you where you are - the need to memorize your 3 word location at home is really pointless.
So the question is now - the video talks about the use of 3 word to solve the location problem in poor areas like Africa where they don't have a good address system like the western world. Is the assumption today that anyone who would be getting mail would have a phone/mobile device, and therefor would be able to lookup their GPS coordinates? Or do you just expect eveyone to memorize their home coordinates that live in those types of locations?
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
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@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
Or do you just expect eveyone to memorize their home coordinates that live in those types of locations?
Why memorize? Under what theoretical conditions (and some must exist, but at some point it is too rare to matter) do you need to share GPS coordinates via memory in a non-digital way where you can be certain that both / all parties will speak the same language and be able to memorize the words with absolute accuracy and will then have access to a system to translate that into something useful?
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
But that's ten years ago. Today we say "I'm here..." and press a button. It's solving a problem that is already gone.
