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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

      @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

      Only the person who needs help has to have is the ability to read (their language) and a dumb phone.

      Dumb phones aren't a thing. If that's the requirement, again, point made.

      A phone without internet (aka the dumb phone) only able to make calls or send / receive SMS.

      There is no point made.

      Your point is everyone already has a phone, so just pull the GPS from that when someone is calling. Prove how that is useful?

      300 meters, pull my location.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

        @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

        @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

        Only the person who needs help has to have is the ability to read (their language) and a dumb phone.

        Dumb phones aren't a thing. If that's the requirement, again, point made.

        A phone without internet (aka the dumb phone) only able to make calls or send / receive SMS.

        There is no point made.

        Your point is everyone already has a phone, so just pull the GPS from that when someone is calling. Prove how that is useful?

        300 meters, pull my location.

        Those phones still have GPS and if not, can still use the cell towers to find you.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @dashrender said in Three Word Address:

          you have a phone - the phone either has GPS or can use the cell towers to get close to find you. no 3 word location needed.

          And it is way faster and more accurate. And can't be so easily tampered with. The three word system, because it is gibberish, is highly dangerous. Anyone changing a sign can't be identified because you can't tell when the words are wrong, unlike house numbers or GPS that increment in logical ways. And getting it wrong gets it very, very wrong. The margin of error is zero.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

            So this is for places that literally have no address.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

              When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

              Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                So this is for places that literally have no address.

                We've covered that. You know this isn't logical. Why do you keep mentioning addresses after we've shown that it makes no sense in that scenario.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                  When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                  Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                  BAHAHAH you're insane.

                  You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                    @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                    When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                    So this is for places that literally have no address.

                    nope, either the land line you have is registered, or your cell phone gives the cops your GPS info.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      When you call the cops (that's a 911 call) from a landline, they have your address before they even pick up the phone. When you call from a cell phone, they have your GPS coordinates in seconds. In no case do you need to give the cops your address. People do to verify that the GPS info is correct or just out of habit, but it is completely unnecessary. Pick up the phone, dial 911, let them pick up, then hang up. Trust me, the cops will show up.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                        @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                        When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                        Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                        BAHAHAH you're insane.

                        You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                        In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                          When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                          Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                          BAHAHAH you're insane.

                          You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                          Then you send your GPS coordinated by SMS. That's how people communicate in those parts of the world. How do you not understand that if you have a phone, you have GPS coordinates and the ability to send them.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in Three Word Address:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                            When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                            Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                            BAHAHAH you're insane.

                            You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                            In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.

                            More critical for the police to have GPS. As a person who lives there, you simply need to know YOUR location.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @dashrender said in Three Word Address:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                              When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                              Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                              BAHAHAH you're insane.

                              You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                              In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.

                              How? The the three words just get converted to GPS. So if GPS isn't the answer, 3 words doesn't even work.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                @dashrender said in Three Word Address:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                                Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                                BAHAHAH you're insane.

                                You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                                In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.

                                More critical for the police to have GPS. As a person who lives there, you simply need to know YOUR location.

                                That's theoretically useful in the case where you are sending a message in a bottle and somehow know your three word address and memorized it and you wont' move for years and hopefully someone gets that bottle and finds your note and sends the police. But for anyone with a phone, this is just silly.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                  When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                                  Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                                  BAHAHAH you're insane.

                                  You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                                  Then you send your GPS coordinated by SMS. That's how people communicate in those parts of the world. How do you not understand that if you have a phone, you have GPS coordinates and the ability to send them.

                                  Who the hell honestly knows how to go into their phone (SMS and voice only) and send their GPS coordinates or to even present them on the phone during an emergency.

                                  You're making up some excuse where people just know everything about their device and can at an instance notice provide this information.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @DustinB3403
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                                    @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                    When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                                    Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                                    BAHAHAH you're insane.

                                    You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                                    Wait what? Your phone is registered and your info comes up on a screen. They ask you the current location just to confirm and to make sure they know who they are talking to. Even with cell phones they get the info the line is currently registered to and the GPS coordinates of the device or nearest cell phone tower.

                                    This is the reason dialing 911 and leaving the phone off hook in the event of a break in or domestic issues is so important because it gets them to you with out you having to say anything.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                      @dashrender said in Three Word Address:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                      When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                                      Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                                      BAHAHAH you're insane.

                                      You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                                      In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.

                                      More critical for the police to have GPS. As a person who lives there, you simply need to know YOUR location.

                                      That's theoretically useful in the case where you are sending a message in a bottle and somehow know your three word address and memorized it and you wont' move for years and hopefully someone gets that bottle and finds your note and sends the police. But for anyone with a phone, this is just silly.

                                      You're being close minded and not seeing how people actually operate. In the ted talk he clearly talks about how emergency responders can't accurately get to where help is because of a lack of human readable addresses in many parts of the world.

                                      Lat and Longitude are not "human readable" they may be Scott readable, but there aren't many Scott's out there.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                        Who the hell honestly knows how to go into their phone (SMS and voice only) and send their GPS coordinates or to even present them on the phone during an emergency.

                                        No one, because it is unnecessary, because they get the GPS automatically at emergency services. If you needed it, though, it's pretty trivial to do.

                                        Remember, you are talking about parts of the world where people do digital banking via SMS on their flip phones. They know how to use them, even if you don't.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                          @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                          You're making up some excuse where people just know everything about their device and can at an instance notice provide this information.

                                          Um, yeah.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @coliver
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                                            @coliver said in Three Word Address:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:

                                            When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?

                                            Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.

                                            BAHAHAH you're insane.

                                            You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.

                                            Wait what? Your phone is registered and your info comes up on a screen. They ask you the current location just to confirm and to make sure they know who they are talking to. Even with cell phones they get the info the line is currently registered to and the GPS coordinates of the device or nearest cell phone tower.

                                            This is the reason dialing 911 and leaving the phone off hook in the event of a break in or domestic issues is so important because it gets them to you with out you having to say anything.

                                            That's my point, scott flat out argued me that they don't ask for your current location.

                                            Phones can be off by a lot in terms of GPS positioning. This is down to a 3 meter square.

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