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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Obsolesce
      last edited by JaredBusch

      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      PowerShell 7 Now Commercially Released

      Microsoft announced on Wednesday that PowerShell 7 has reached "general availability" (GA) commercial release.

      PowerShell 7 is notable for being a cross-platform (Linux, macOS and Windows) scripting tool that attempts to bridge the gap between Windows PowerShell 5.1 and the PowerShell Core 6.x releases. In addition, while Microsoft based PowerShell 7 on the open source .NET Core 3.1, a near-term goal is to base it on a coming open source and cross-platform .NET 5 release, which is expected to roll out in November.

      Until they force it down to existing Windows systems as part of a normal update, it is basically not relevant. It does not matter how good it is.

      Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update... lol

      We have whole threads on the concept of if it is best practice to use the OS native tooling. The answer has consistently been yes.

      Pull your lips off of Microsoft's ass and think for yourself. Just because I say something that your precious MS did is not useful....

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        Dashrender @Obsolesce
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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
          last edited by Obsolesce

          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          PowerShell 7 Now Commercially Released

          Microsoft announced on Wednesday that PowerShell 7 has reached "general availability" (GA) commercial release.

          PowerShell 7 is notable for being a cross-platform (Linux, macOS and Windows) scripting tool that attempts to bridge the gap between Windows PowerShell 5.1 and the PowerShell Core 6.x releases. In addition, while Microsoft based PowerShell 7 on the open source .NET Core 3.1, a near-term goal is to base it on a coming open source and cross-platform .NET 5 release, which is expected to roll out in November.

          Until they force it down to existing Windows systems as part of a normal update, it is basically not relevant. It does not matter how good it is.

          Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update... lol

          We have whole threads on the concept of if it is best practice to use the OS native tooling. The answer has consistently been yes.

          Pull your lips off of Microsoft's ass and think for yourself. Just because I say something that your precious MS did is not useful....

          Maybe pull your face out of your own ass. I never said anything about not using native tooling. That was your own concoction. PS7 can and will be used by default in so many other places than on the Windows 10 clients. There's a much bigger world outside of your little bubble.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            I never said anything about not using native tooling. That was your own concoction.

            You clearly stated

            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update...

            Meaning exactly what I said. You want to use non-native tooling.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @JaredBusch
              last edited by Obsolesce

              @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              I never said anything about not using native tooling. That was your own concoction.

              You clearly stated

              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update...

              Meaning exactly what I said. You want to use non-native tooling.

              Your response to the news article suggested the assumption in the first place. It was never mine.

              So yes, PS7 has lots of relevance outside of your limited bubble.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                I never said anything about not using native tooling. That was your own concoction.

                You clearly stated

                @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update...

                Meaning exactly what I said. You want to use non-native tooling.

                Your response to the news article suggested the assumption in the first place.

                The response to the news article means exactly that. It is useless until pushed down.

                because even if I have PS7 on my system, it does not matter when I need to connect to various remote systems and issue commands. Because they can only accept commands they understand. Which menas I can only build scripting to the lowest common denominator. This is like basic admin 101..

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  I never said anything about not using native tooling. That was your own concoction.

                  You clearly stated

                  @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update...

                  Meaning exactly what I said. You want to use non-native tooling.

                  Your response to the news article suggested the assumption in the first place.

                  The response to the news article means exactly that. It is useless until pushed down.

                  because even if I have PS7 on my system, it does not matter when I need to connect to various remote systems and issue commands. Because they can only accept commands they understand. Which menas I can only build scripting to the lowest common denominator. This is like basic admin 101..

                  You can totally remotely connect from PS7 to windows device with 5.1 and issue commands.
                  It also depends on how you connect, in which way.

                  When creating scripts, you create the script for the appropriate target language. Not sure why you would do otherwise.

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite
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                    I’m excited for having the opportunity to use .net core and powershell core 7 on my Windows and Linux systems

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      I’m excited for having the opportunity to use .net core and powershell core 7 on my Windows and Linux systems

                      Yeah, that's pretty cool. Feel much different than PS6?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        PowerShell 7 Now Commercially Released

                        Microsoft announced on Wednesday that PowerShell 7 has reached "general availability" (GA) commercial release.

                        PowerShell 7 is notable for being a cross-platform (Linux, macOS and Windows) scripting tool that attempts to bridge the gap between Windows PowerShell 5.1 and the PowerShell Core 6.x releases. In addition, while Microsoft based PowerShell 7 on the open source .NET Core 3.1, a near-term goal is to base it on a coming open source and cross-platform .NET 5 release, which is expected to roll out in November.

                        Until they force it down to existing Windows systems as part of a normal update, it is basically not relevant. It does not matter how good it is.

                        I agree. It's weird that you have to add it as a third party style tool rather than being built it. PS6 was like this. Every time you used PS5, it was tell you that you should download and install 6, but it was never built in. So we avoid telling people to use it because when you work on someone's computer, there is almost no chance that you'll have those tools. So taking the time to learn them seems wasted as they aren't in Microsoft's current roadmap or setup. no matter how good they would be if they were.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          PowerShell 7 Now Commercially Released

                          Microsoft announced on Wednesday that PowerShell 7 has reached "general availability" (GA) commercial release.

                          PowerShell 7 is notable for being a cross-platform (Linux, macOS and Windows) scripting tool that attempts to bridge the gap between Windows PowerShell 5.1 and the PowerShell Core 6.x releases. In addition, while Microsoft based PowerShell 7 on the open source .NET Core 3.1, a near-term goal is to base it on a coming open source and cross-platform .NET 5 release, which is expected to roll out in November.

                          Until they force it down to existing Windows systems as part of a normal update, it is basically not relevant. It does not matter how good it is.

                          Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update... lol

                          Only way of making it useful to MSPs, heck yeah.

                          Youtube Video

                          Bad to rely on tools you probably won't have. Might be nice for in house IT where you never have to deal with unknowns. But for MSPs and/or IT pros that might change jobs ever, it presents an obstacle.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            PowerShell 7 Now Commercially Released

                            Microsoft announced on Wednesday that PowerShell 7 has reached "general availability" (GA) commercial release.

                            PowerShell 7 is notable for being a cross-platform (Linux, macOS and Windows) scripting tool that attempts to bridge the gap between Windows PowerShell 5.1 and the PowerShell Core 6.x releases. In addition, while Microsoft based PowerShell 7 on the open source .NET Core 3.1, a near-term goal is to base it on a coming open source and cross-platform .NET 5 release, which is expected to roll out in November.

                            Until they force it down to existing Windows systems as part of a normal update, it is basically not relevant. It does not matter how good it is.

                            Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update... lol

                            We have whole threads on the concept of if it is best practice to use the OS native tooling. The answer has consistently been yes.

                            Pull your lips off of Microsoft's ass and think for yourself. Just because I say something that your precious MS did is not useful....

                            Maybe pull your face out of your own ass. I never said anything about not using native tooling. That was your own concoction. PS7 can and will be used by default in so many other places than on the Windows 10 clients. There's a much bigger world outside of your little bubble.

                            PS7 is the same as any other non-native tooling. It's like having to install anything from Chocolatey. Sometimes you have to, but it always sucks that you have to go to a third party and those tools are almost never there when you need them. PS7 is non-native on Windows.

                            Outside of Windows, where the heck will it be used?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              Outside of Windows, where the heck will it be used?

                              Linux and OSX obviously.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                So yes, PS7 has lots of relevance outside of your limited bubble.

                                Other than tinkerers interested in what might be available someday in a useful form (PS6 died on the vine, so I have zero faith in PS7 ever getting actually released in a meaningful way - e.g. incorporated into Windows), what relevance does it have to anyone?

                                It's cool, and nice, and if MS would have some faith in it and actually use it themselves that would be great and it would be a leap forward. But as long as MS doesn't believe in it, I don't see where it is relevant.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  Outside of Windows, where the heck will it be used?

                                  Linux and OSX obviously.

                                  LOL. It'll never be native, or useful on those. PS6 showed how silly that is. Nothing wrong with making it cross platform, but calling it useful and widely deployed is ridiculous.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    I never said anything about not using native tooling. That was your own concoction.

                                    You clearly stated

                                    @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    Right, because the only way to get or use someing on a computer is if it's included in the OS or as an OS update...

                                    Meaning exactly what I said. You want to use non-native tooling.

                                    Your response to the news article suggested the assumption in the first place.

                                    The response to the news article means exactly that. It is useless until pushed down.

                                    because even if I have PS7 on my system, it does not matter when I need to connect to various remote systems and issue commands. Because they can only accept commands they understand. Which menas I can only build scripting to the lowest common denominator. This is like basic admin 101..

                                    You can totally remotely connect from PS7 to windows device with 5.1 and issue commands.
                                    It also depends on how you connect, in which way.

                                    When creating scripts, you create the script for the appropriate target language. Not sure why you would do otherwise.

                                    Is that true? PS6 couldn't. Well it could, but only with SSH and it was flaky. Really flaky. And lots of stuff didn't work.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      @skyetel introduced self service user accounts and MFA (SMS only to start, but more coming)

                                      https://skyetel.com/introducing-users-and-mfa/

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                                        Facebook removes 'deceptive' Trump census ads

                                        Facebook has removed a series of misleading adverts from the Donald Trump campaign promoting "the Official 2020 Congressional District Census".
                                        The adverts made it appear respondents were taking part in the official 2020 US census, which begins on 12 March. They were promoted by a fundraising group backed by Republican officials and Mr Trump's re-election team. "There are policies in place to prevent confusion around the official US census," Facebook said. "This is an example of those being enforced," said the spokesperson. The adverts began running on Facebook on 3 March. Clicking the link takes users to a general survey focusing on Republican talking points.

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                                          Cambridge Analytica: Australia takes Facebook to court over privacy

                                          Australia's privacy regulator is taking Facebook to court over the Cambridge Analytica scandal.
                                          The Office of the Australian Information Commissioner said Facebook had seriously infringed the privacy of more than 300,000 Australians. The social media giant left personal data "exposed to be sold and used for... political profiling". The scandal involved harvested Facebook data of 87 million people being used for advertising during elections."Facebook failed to take reasonable steps to protect those individuals' personal information from unauthorised disclosure," the Australian commissioner's office said. Australia's federal court can impose a fine of A$1.7m (£860,000) for every serious or repeated interference with privacy, it added.

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                                            Sextortion hackers use 'friend's naked girlfriend' lure

                                            A novel attempt to convince people to open malicious email attachments is spreading online, purporting to offer nude photos of a friend's girlfriend.
                                            Instead of threatening to distribute stolen private images, this new attempt claims to have already "sextorted" the recipient's friend, who refused to pay. It tells them it is now emailing nude photos to every contact of the supposed victim - and to check the attachment. Researchers said the "new take on sextortion is quite remarkable". Recipients who click on the attachment open a Word document with a blurred image that hints at possibly sexual content - and instructions on how to "enable content".

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