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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

      Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
      Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

      It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

      Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

      It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

      You are.

      If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
      Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

      745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

      If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
      MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

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      We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @wrx7m
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        @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

        Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
        Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

        It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

        Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

        It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

        You are.

        If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
        Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

        745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

        If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
        MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

        1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

        c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

        69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

        We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

        I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @mlnews We are deploying it this weekend!

          I deployed it two weeks ago.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @hobbit666
            last edited by

            @hobbit666 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            Windows 10 Version 1903 Will Be Coming Soon, Microsoft Warns

            Windows 10 version 1903 will be arriving soon for many of those individuals and organizations not presently using it.
            This "feature update" (also known as the "May 2019 Update") is the most current version and was first commercially released by Microsoft on May 21, 2019.

            See articles like this confuse me, i'm already on 1903 May Update and have been for a while. So why say "Coming Soon"
            ...… I've got and so are all my lab Win10 machines 🙂

            They mean they are going to semi-force it on people. Then they will force it upon them later.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @Obsolesce
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              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

              Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
              Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

              It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

              Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

              It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

              You are.

              If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
              Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

              745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

              If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
              MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

              1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

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              We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

              I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

              I would agree with that. I need to have group conversations with people often... but getting a meeting together is a HUGE PITA. group chat would be better - of course that suffers from people all being available at the same time. Chat is hugely disruptive to someone working on a project as well.

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m
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                OneWeb’s low-Earth satellites hit 400Mbps and 32ms latency in new test
                https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/07/onewebs-low-earth-satellites-hit-400mbps-and-32ms-latency-in-new-test/

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @wrx7m
                  last edited by

                  @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  OneWeb’s low-Earth satellites hit 400Mbps and 32ms latency in new test
                  https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/07/onewebs-low-earth-satellites-hit-400mbps-and-32ms-latency-in-new-test/

                  Hi, welcome to earlier today

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    OneWeb’s low-Earth satellites hit 400Mbps and 32ms latency in new test
                    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/07/onewebs-low-earth-satellites-hit-400mbps-and-32ms-latency-in-new-test/

                    Hi, welcome to earlier today

                    Hi. I didn't see that posted in this thread.

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                    • pmonchoP
                      pmoncho @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                      Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                      Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                      It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                      Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                      It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                      You are.

                      If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                      Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                      745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                      If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                      MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                      1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                      c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                      69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                      We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                      Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                      I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        Microsoft Highlights AT&T Strategic Alliance During Inspire Event

                        Microsoft and AT&T on Wednesday announced the establishment of a Microsoft 365 business deal
                        Plus a "multiyear" strategic alliance centered on the use of 5G wireless networks to support edge computing and artificial intelligence (AI).

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @pmoncho
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                          @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                          Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                          Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                          It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                          Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                          It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                          You are.

                          If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                          Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                          745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                          If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                          MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                          1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                          c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                          69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                          We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                          Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                          I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

                          And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
                            last edited by

                            Microsoft Bringing Enterprise Features to Chromium Edge Browser Preview

                            Microsoft on Tuesday outlined what's to come with its Chromium-based Microsoft Edge browser, particularly for business and enterprise users.
                            Currently, for those users, Microsoft has released an Edge browser preview with enterprise features via its Dev Channel.

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                            • pmonchoP
                              pmoncho @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                              Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                              Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                              It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                              Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                              It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                              You are.

                              If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                              Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                              745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                              If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                              MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                              1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                              c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                              69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                              We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                              Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                              I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

                              And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders

                              Nope. Thank goodness.

                              My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                Microsoft warns 10,000 customers they’re targeted by nation-sponsored hackers

                                Hacking remains a tool of choice for influencing elections, company warns.
                                Microsoft said on Wednesday that it has notified almost 10,000 customers in the past year that they’re being targeted by nation-sponsored hackers.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @mlnews
                                  last edited by Obsolesce

                                  @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  Microsoft warns 10,000 customers they’re targeted by nation-sponsored hackers

                                  Hacking remains a tool of choice for influencing elections, company warns.
                                  Microsoft said on Wednesday that it has notified almost 10,000 customers in the past year that they’re being targeted by nation-sponsored hackers.

                                  Ugh the world hasn't even calmed dow yet from the last election 😑

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @pmoncho
                                    last edited by

                                    @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                                    Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                                    Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                                    It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                                    Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                                    It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                                    You are.

                                    If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                                    Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                                    745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                                    If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                                    MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                                    1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                                    c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                                    69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                                    We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                                    Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                                    I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

                                    And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders

                                    Nope. Thank goodness.

                                    My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:

                                    Excel can still make them pretty pie charts from any database, and can natively access Access. Not that I'd want to use Access when LibreOffice is available to work with a much better back end.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                                      Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                                      Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                                      It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                                      Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                                      It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                                      You are.

                                      If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                                      Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                                      745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                                      If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                                      MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                                      1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                                      c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                                      69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                                      We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                                      Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                                      I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

                                      And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders

                                      Nope. Thank goodness.

                                      My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:

                                      Excel can still make them pretty pie charts from any database, and can natively access Access. Not that I'd want to use Access when LibreOffice is available to work with a much better back end.

                                      OH no, not Access AND Excel! 😱

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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                                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                                        Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                                        Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                                        It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                                        Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                                        It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                                        You are.

                                        If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                                        Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                                        745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                                        If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                                        MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                                        1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                                        c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                                        69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                                        We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                                        Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                                        I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

                                        And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders

                                        Nope. Thank goodness.

                                        My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:

                                        Excel can still make them pretty pie charts from any database, and can natively access Access. Not that I'd want to use Access when LibreOffice is available to work with a much better back end.

                                        OH no, not Access AND Excel! 😱

                                        lol, yep, I've been there, done that. Didn't get the t-shirt because it sucked.

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                                            Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                                            Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                                            Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                                            It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                                            Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                                            It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                                            You are.

                                            If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                                            Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

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                                            If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                                            MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

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                                            We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                                            Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                                            I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

                                            I had a customer tell me that they use email as a CYA - so therefore they never delete anything. /sigh...sadly, nothing really works the same to provide this - at least not that I know of.

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