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@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
OpenIndiana 2017.10 has released and now has the MATE desktop.
I would like to try and get to know a modern Solaris. I am just a little late I know. Is this the best Solaris derivative or is there something else better?
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@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
OpenIndiana 2017.10 has released and now has the MATE desktop.
I would like to try and get to know a modern Solaris. I am just a little late I know. Is this the best Solaris derivative or is there something else better?
Well you can always use Solaris proper. OpenIndiana would be the best derivative for general purpose work.
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In this day and age, I'm not sure getting to know Solaris is still worth it. It's dead.
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And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.
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@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Odd.
I'm sure the phone cases and apple care + thing are far more profitable for them than building a decently resilient device.
Man the Galaxy S8+ is absolutely horrible too. I know i only paid like $100 for it, but my screen is all busted up already. Before that, it got scratched so easily too. This is the first phone I've had that the screen got scratched and the screen cracked so easily.
My phone habits have been the same as always. Never a scratch or crack before. This curved screen thing makes it so damn weak it's unreal.
I will never again get a phone with a curved screen. Maybe not even a Samsung galaxy. Now I have to deal with a cracked screen for a couple years as it costs $300 just to replace the screen. I suppose you could do just the glass, but you need specialized equipment well over the cost just to do it.
Big mistake.
I never liked Apple phones but had Samsung for a while. Eventually I got fed up with them too. I have now moved to Huawei phones. I have the 64 gb Mate9. It has been great and very reliable. Much more resilient than those 3 crap Samsung phones I had. Being chinese I don't know if I should be worried about security or not but I have not heard anything about them like I have lenovo. I have loved my Mate 9 and will buy the Mate 10 soon for my second phone.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.
Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.
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@scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.
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@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.
I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?
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@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.
I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?
Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."
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Sparc team was also liquidated and their primary Sparc partner was bought by Lenovo. So... Sparc is dead, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.
I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?
Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."
Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?
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@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.
Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.
It's in the category with BeOS, TrueUNIX and such now. A neat chapter of history, but sadly gone.
I started my UNIX journey on Solaris 2.4, in 1994 on 32 bit Sparc hardware.
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@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.
I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?
Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."
Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?
Not IMHO. It's not a bad project, but it offers nothing of real value. If you want to use UNIX, you have Linux, BSD, and AIX today. No other UNIX has any utility.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.
Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.
It's in the category with BeOS, TrueUNIX and such now. A neat chapter of history, but sadly gone.
I started my UNIX journey on Solaris 2.4, in 1994 on 32 bit Sparc hardware.
Very cool!
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.
I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?
Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."
Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?
Not IMHO. It's not a bad project, but it offers nothing of real value. If you want to use UNIX, you have Linux, BSD, and AIX today. No other UNIX has any utility.
BSD is more mature and stable of a project isn't it?
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@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.
Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.
It's in the category with BeOS, TrueUNIX and such now. A neat chapter of history, but sadly gone.
I started my UNIX journey on Solaris 2.4, in 1994 on 32 bit Sparc hardware.
Very cool!
Just sad to see Solaris and Sparc dying off. The end of an era.
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@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.
I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?
Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."
Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?
Not IMHO. It's not a bad project, but it offers nothing of real value. If you want to use UNIX, you have Linux, BSD, and AIX today. No other UNIX has any utility.
BSD is more mature and stable of a project isn't it?
BSD is heavily used and extremely mature. OpenIndiana is well done, but borders on being a hobby project.
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And the biggest featuers of Solaris / OpenIndiana like dtrace and OpenZFS were long ago ported to FreeBSD.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
And the biggest featuers of Solaris / OpenIndiana like dtrace and OpenZFS were long ago ported to FreeBSD.
Ok I guess that decides it for me. I just missed my chance. i might look at the real Solaris eventually just because I want to, sad that it won't have any purpose to use it for when I do.
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@jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
And the biggest featuers of Solaris / OpenIndiana like dtrace and OpenZFS were long ago ported to FreeBSD.
Ok I guess that decides it for me. I just missed my chance. i might look at the real Solaris eventually just because I want to, sad that it won't have any purpose to use it for when I do.
Sad, but at least FreeBSD took its place in the market.