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    • DustinB3403
      DustinB3403 last edited by

      Just a thought that popped into my head, was if a business from servers to laptops was running RHEL or CentOS for everything, would they opt to use Office365 for email collaboration and Office capabilities?

      I know @scottalanmiller knows of businesses that are purely linux in every aspect. I'm just posting to post really, and this was something that came up as a discussion worth considering.

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      • DustinB3403
        DustinB3403 last edited by

        Does exchange offer something so explicit that a business must use Office365?

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        • DustinB3403
          DustinB3403 last edited by DustinB3403

          Skype for Business is one item, but calendar functionality is a universal service today isn't it? Which I know that to be the biggest complaint.

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          • wirestyle22
            wirestyle22 last edited by

            Good question. I don't know what your options would be in a business environment. I know a lot of people run it on wine but I think there have been issues doing that as well.

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            • Dashrender
              Dashrender last edited by

              Is Calendar sync a universal service? Sure we have iCal - but damn the last time I used it it was a problem child and only one way syncing.

              If you're all in on the Google environment (email/calendar/g-voice/hangouts/chat client of the week) You can probably be OK since Google has apps for all of these things for the two major mobile platforms, and syncing with them bidirectionally works.

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              • coliver
                coliver last edited by

                What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

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                • wirestyle22
                  wirestyle22 @coliver last edited by

                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                  I think he means with full features

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                  • EddieJennings
                    EddieJennings last edited by

                    I look forward to reading the responses, as I'm curious as well.

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                    • coliver
                      coliver @wirestyle22 last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                      I think he means with full features

                      What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

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                      • Dashrender
                        Dashrender @wirestyle22 last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        Good question. I don't know what your options would be in a business environment. I know a lot of people run it on wine but I think there have been issues doing that as well.

                        You're conflating MS Office with Office 365 (the service). Nothing says you have to use the locally install Office with the service. The online version will, in reality, probably work for most users. This to me is the saving grace of SharePoint Online. That combined with Outlook on the Web, no local apps are often required. Of course in rare situations, you must have locally installed Outlook so you can run an add-on, but then the question is, will that add-in run in WINE?

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                        • Dashrender
                          Dashrender @coliver last edited by

                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                          I think he means with full features

                          What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                          Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

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                          • wirestyle22
                            wirestyle22 @Dashrender last edited by

                            @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                            @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                            What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                            I think he means with full features

                            What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                            Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                            I'm not sure what is best practice. I am making an assumption that WINE isn't to be used for business as I've seen a ton of issues related to it, but I really don't know.

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                            • wirestyle22
                              wirestyle22 @coliver last edited by

                              @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                              I think he means with full features

                              What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                              Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.

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                              • Dashrender
                                Dashrender @wirestyle22 last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                I think he means with full features

                                What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                I'm not sure what is best practice. I am making an assumption that WINE isn't to be used for business as I've seen a ton of issues related to it, but I really don't know.

                                I also know of no business personally that is trying to run a Linux based OS as their sole desktop solution. But again, the online version of the MS Office Apps will serve most people.

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                                • coliver
                                  coliver @Dashrender last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                  I think he means with full features

                                  What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                  Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                  I suppose that's true... but Microsoft Office =/= Office 365, nor do all the apps I listed above but I digress. What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

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                                  • gjacobse
                                    gjacobse last edited by

                                    Why does it have to be limited to Office / Office 365? There are a few things that I use/used that just don't work in Linux - Correctable? sure,.. but at the vendor level - They don't have a Linux version; MAC and Windows yes,.. Linux no.

                                    While is case is Skype a MS product - the sub product is not; my Jabra headset - which I use daily to receive phone and skype calls.

                                    Using it with the Yealink phone is no trouble. it's when I go to use Skype that I have the issue. I have to manually answer the Skype call, which means I have to be at the computer. And then I have to change the audio settings so the audio out uses the headset over the speakers - and when done, I have to reverse the process.

                                    It's a simple solution - go back to Windows - and wait for Jabra to release a Linux version.

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                                    • DustinB3403
                                      DustinB3403 last edited by

                                      So the topic specifically was using Office365 via web, not with the install-able option. Of course a business would be able to take that route, but is there a good reason to do so when Office365 does as good of a job as it does?

                                      Would a business opt to use a different solution entirely?

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                                      • wirestyle22
                                        wirestyle22 @coliver last edited by

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                        I think he means with full features

                                        What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                        Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                        What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                        Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

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                                        • gjacobse
                                          gjacobse @DustinB3403 last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          So the topic specifically was using Office365 via web, not with the install-able option. Of course a business would be able to take that route, but is there a good reason to do so when Office365 does as good of a job as it does?

                                          Would a business opt to use a different solution entirely?

                                          Very likely - as that has been the standard - to install the application on the local - in a LANless style system, they may not need / be able to.

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                                          • Dashrender
                                            Dashrender @coliver last edited by

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                            I think he means with full features

                                            What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                            Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                            I suppose that's true... but Microsoft Office =/= Office 365, nor do all the apps I listed above but I digress. What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                            Well, unless they fixed the formatting issues they had in the past, a lot.

                                            and you're right - MS Office != O365 (see my comment above to Wirestyle :P)

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