SMB vs Enterprise
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@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
European work law is great, especially if you have a family. It's similar to Italy or better in most European countries.
In the U.S., it's hardcore capitalism... all about pinching pennies and screwing the employees if need be. There's a lot of exceptions (of course, like where John Nicholson works, and my employer is great), but generally speaking I mean. If you have a higher position in an F500 company it is most likely OKAY. But still, never even close to how good it is in Europe. That's why they are always named the happiest countries, especially the Scandinavian counties and Canada.My sister gets 6 months in DC working for a non-profit.Plenty of companies offer generous benefits like this, they are just normally not SMBs.
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@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
European work law is great, especially if you have a family. It's similar to Italy or better in most European countries.
In the U.S., it's hardcore capitalism... all about pinching pennies and screwing the employees if need be. There's a lot of exceptions (of course, like where John Nicholson works, and my employer is great), but generally speaking I mean. If you have a higher position in an F500 company it is most likely OKAY. But still, never even close to how good it is in Europe. That's why they are always named the happiest countries, especially the Scandinavian counties and Canada.My sister gets 6 months in DC working for a non-profit.Plenty of companies offer generous benefits like this, they are just normally not SMBs.
I got that for a little company in California, too.
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@scottalanmiller At the MSP I worked at we were the low cost operations/network team for some nordic companies because their benefits made it borderline impossible to have operations staff...
38 hour work week means you often have IT staff stop responding to email/calls before Thursday.
2-3 week holidays where the whole country shuts down effectively. (China and Thailand are bad about this too).
I've been watching the hiring process for a new team member in EMEA and it's insane all the crazy paperwork and weird stuff.
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@matteo-nunziati The issue isn't the cost, the issue is operation issues. SMB's often dangerously live with institutional knowledge and relationships for sales being tied to 1-2 people. The wrong people go on leave and the company will implode.
You actually reach a point to where this leads to discrimination in hiring. I worked for a SMB that hired someone in a critical 1 person role who got pregnant and went on leave. We had to pay significant premiums to bring back old staff to consult and if they had not been available that entire piece of operations might have fallen apart (even beyond the cost of the supplemental labor). I can see unscrupulous managers avoiding hiring younger women for this reason.
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@Breffni-Potter We have this in Houston (3rd ward). I wouldn't go into some area in the middle of the day without a roof gunner. I lived in 6th ward (not quite as bad) and ambulances wouldn't come to my house without a police escort.
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@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
I can see unscrupulous managers avoiding hiring younger women for this reason.
Same thing that keeps many women from running businesses on their own when they are young. It's easier for a man to start a one or two person business. A woman getting pregnant and needing leave from her own one person business is the biggest possible impact. One could say that every woman of child bearing years that isn't running her own company is discriminating in that way.
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@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter We have this in Houston (3rd ward). I wouldn't go into some area in the middle of the day without a roof gunner. I lived in 6th ward (not quite as bad) and ambulances wouldn't come to my house without a police escort.
One could reasonably argue that all dry towns and counties in America are practising limited Sharia law. As it goes against the beliefs of society, healthy, safety, all major religious beliefs and has no reasonable source except Sharia to have a law like that. It's the only rational source of the desire for alcohol free towns.
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@scottalanmiller Always loved CS Lewis's quote on this.
It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotallers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion
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@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller Always loved CS Lewis's quote on this.
It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotallers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion
Exactly. Christ gave wine. There is very little that the Bible doesn't go more out of the way to point out as being good and appropriate. Not only does the Bible allow its use, in demands it. It's pretty clear on that.
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@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller Always loved CS Lewis's quote on this.
It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotallers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion
Exactly. Christ gave wine. There is very little that the Bible doesn't go more out of the way to point out as being good and appropriate. Not only does the Bible allow its use, in demands it. It's pretty clear on that.
Yeah, U.S. history has really twisted the entire viewpoint of the Puritans horribly. Hell the log book from one of the ships states they stopped at Plymouth because they were running out of beer among other things.
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@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller Always loved CS Lewis's quote on this.
It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotallers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion
Actually, alcoholic beverages are forbidden in Christianity. In all of the many different Bibles, old testament and new. The problem is that people see "wine" and think of it as today's alcoholic wine... people love to look at any textual ambiguity as a loophole or supporting fact to their ideas.
This is why you can read any religion's holy book, and make it out to be something bad, good, or supportive of your own ideals, when in fact, it's not if you look at the full contexts and meaning of words. If anyone bothers to anyways.
Usually it just comes down to people and news agencies getting their religious education from out-of-context Facebook memes... unfortunately.
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@JaredBusch said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller Always loved CS Lewis's quote on this.
It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotallers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion
Exactly. Christ gave wine. There is very little that the Bible doesn't go more out of the way to point out as being good and appropriate. Not only does the Bible allow its use, in demands it. It's pretty clear on that.
Yeah, U.S. history has really twisted the entire viewpoint of the Puritans horribly. Hell the log book from one of the ships states they stopped at Plymouth because they were running out of beer among other things.
And the Puritans were really wild sexually. Like no group in the US today compares to their level of promiscuity. They were active to a degree that would make most Europeans blush. (Actually the US is more active than most of Europe, just pretends that it is not.) The thing that made them crazy was really just that they were a cult and not a free society in any way.
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@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller Always loved CS Lewis's quote on this.
It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotallers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion
Actually, alcoholic beverages are forbidden in Christianity. In all of the many different Bibles, old testament and new. The problem is that people see "wine" and think of it as today's alcoholic wine...
And it was. The word used had no other connotations. It's both the word used, and the only one that makes sense in context.
