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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

      I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

      Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

        I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

        Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

        That there is the issue. The business looks at an installation project and sees a pricetag of X, and then say it would require us to charge X per month to recoup this in X years.

        So they just don't want to. It's understandable, but also unreasonable, as improvements is what makes everything better.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

          I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

          Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

          That there is the issue. The business looks at an installation project and sees a pricetag of X, and then say it would require us to charge X per month to recoup this in X years.

          So they just don't want to. It's understandable, but also unreasonable, as improvements is what makes everything better.

          Which would have some merit... if the governments, state and federal, weren't putting massive grants out there to improve infrastructure.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

            I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

            Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

            That there is the issue. The business looks at an installation project and sees a pricetag of X, and then say it would require us to charge X per month to recoup this in X years.

            So they just don't want to. It's understandable, but also unreasonable, as improvements is what makes everything better.

            Which would have some merit... if the governments, state and federal, weren't putting massive grants out there to improve infrastructure.

            The issue though is businesses and residence over inflate the price of renovation improvements. So the grants while accurate, don't cover the costs.

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            • mlnewsM
              mlnews
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              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/senator-blasts-fcc-for-refusing-to-provide-ddos-analysis/

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              • mlnewsM
                mlnews
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                Verizon already busted for throttling the competition.

                https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/verizon-wireless-apparently-throttles-streaming-video-to-10mbps/

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @mlnews
                  last edited by

                  @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  Verizon already busted for throttling the competition.

                  https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/verizon-wireless-apparently-throttles-streaming-video-to-10mbps/

                  And it begins. . .

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/lawsuit-seeks-ajit-pais-net-neutrality-talks-with-internet-providers/

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews
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                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/verizons-throttling-of-video-should-be-investigated-by-fcc-petition-says/

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/congressman-blasts-ajit-pai-for-anti-consumer-anti-competition-agenda/

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
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                          https://opensource.com/article/17/8/net-neutrality

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
                            last edited by

                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/the-fcc-is-full-again-with-three-republicans-and-two-democrats/

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @mlnews
                              last edited by

                              @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/the-fcc-is-full-again-with-three-republicans-and-two-democrats/

                              That picture of Pai sitting there with a smug look on his face like he just shit his pants and is happy that it's out of him...

                              Screw this guy, I hope he gets hit by a bus.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/the-fcc-is-full-again-with-three-republicans-and-two-democrats/

                                That picture of Pai sitting there with a smug look on his face like he just shit his pants and is happy that it's out of him...

                                Screw this guy, I hope he gets hit by a bus.

                                For once, I'd be happy that a bus ran someone over.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/fcc-is-ignoring-public-interest-in-net-neutrality-repeal-democrats-say/?amp=1

                                  Surprising literally no one.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    And now the FCC is suggesting that Mobile broadband of 10/1 might be all a house actually needs. Which would make it easier for Chairman Idiot's job easier to roll back Net Neutrality. . .

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      And now the FCC is suggesting that Mobile broadband of 10/1 might be all a house actually needs. Which would make it easier for Chairman Idiot's job easier to roll back Net Neutrality. . .

                                      Needs? WTF does that mean? for that matter, we don't NEED internet - if we want to go back to early 1990's life.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        And now the FCC is suggesting that Mobile broadband of 10/1 might be all a house actually needs. Which would make it easier for Chairman Idiot's job easier to roll back Net Neutrality. . .

                                        Needs? WTF does that mean? for that matter, we don't NEED internet - if we want to go back to early 1990's life.

                                        I'm not so sure about this. It's considered a human right by the UN, and a vast majority of sales and communication is now done over the internet. You'd have a serious economic collapse if we went back to pre-internet life, it would make the 2008 recession look like a good day for the market. Could we do it? Sure, we could also get rid of modern medicine and go back to blood letting and trepanning.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          And now the FCC is suggesting that Mobile broadband of 10/1 might be all a house actually needs. Which would make it easier for Chairman Idiot's job easier to roll back Net Neutrality. . .

                                          Needs? WTF does that mean? for that matter, we don't NEED internet - if we want to go back to early 1990's life.

                                          I'm not so sure about this. It's considered a human right by the UN, and a vast majority of sales and communication is now done over the internet. You'd have a serious economic collapse if we went back to pre-internet life, it would make the 2008 recession look like a good day for the market. Could we do it? Sure, we could also get rid of modern medicine and go back to blood letting and trepanning.

                                          You're damned right we could - let's start a new campaign for that. LOL

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            And now the FCC is suggesting that Mobile broadband of 10/1 might be all a house actually needs. Which would make it easier for Chairman Idiot's job easier to roll back Net Neutrality. . .

                                            Needs? WTF does that mean? for that matter, we don't NEED internet - if we want to go back to early 1990's life.

                                            I'm not so sure about this. It's considered a human right by the UN, and a vast majority of sales and communication is now done over the internet. You'd have a serious economic collapse if we went back to pre-internet life, it would make the 2008 recession look like a good day for the market. Could we do it? Sure, we could also get rid of modern medicine and go back to blood letting and trepanning.

                                            You're damned right we could - let's start a new campaign for that. LOL

                                            Anti-vaxers and the natural medicine extremists already exist.

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