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    FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @bnrstnr I would assume so.

      Why would you think that?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        The bigger question is - do you have any real options to move to?

        I don't. The best alternative option around here is 12/2 DSL.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @bnrstnr I would assume so.

          That doesn't make any sense. That's like a million to one chance. First because they specifically would write contracts to make sure that this can't happen. And second because there is no trigger to make this different than any other time.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @bnrstnr I would assume so.

            I have to agree with @JaredBusch and @scottalanmiller why would you think this would give you an out.

            They most definitely have a clause that allows them to change their Terms of Service at will. All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

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              bnrstnr @DustinB3403
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              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

              I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @bnrstnr
                last edited by DustinB3403

                @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

                I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

                Again, nothing in the contract has to currently state word 1 about net-neutrality. The ability to change their terms at will as was existing in the contract you may have signed allows them to change it at will for any laws that may affect them.

                IE, you agreed to these terms at the contract, and we may have a clause that says you can't back out of the contract except for in these <outlined events>.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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                  @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

                  I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

                  Those contracts are "always" written the opposite - stating that if they change, you are still stuck.

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                    bnrstnr @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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                      @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.

                      Credit cards are governed by finance rules that are very different from ISPs.

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/fcc-still-withholding-isps-responses-to-net-neutrality-complaints/

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
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                          FCC Hid 50,000 Net Neutrality Complaints from Repeal Docket

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
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                            Find Your Local Net Neutrality Protest

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/?amp=1

                              A good read on the looming court battle to save Net neutrality

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @mlnews
                                  last edited by

                                  @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/

                                  WTF I already posted this....

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @DustinB3403
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                                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/

                                    WTF I already posted this....

                                    Maybe it was just so good that it deserved another round.

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                                    • mlnewsM
                                      mlnews
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                                      FCC Chairman doesn't just roll back net neutrality, but also silently allows ISPs to go back to secretive pricing where they no longer have to report what you are being charged for!

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                                      • mlnewsM
                                        mlnews
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                                        "While FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to keep some of the commission's existing disclosure rules and to impose some new disclosure requirements, ISPs won't have to tell consumers exactly what everything will cost when they sign up for service."

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @mlnews
                                          last edited by

                                          @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          "While FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to keep some of the commission's existing disclosure rules and to impose some new disclosure requirements, ISPs won't have to tell consumers exactly what everything will cost when they sign up for service."

                                          Just WTF

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @JaredBusch
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                                            @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            "While FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to keep some of the commission's existing disclosure rules and to impose some new disclosure requirements, ISPs won't have to tell consumers exactly what everything will cost when they sign up for service."

                                            Just WTF

                                            Obviously those rules were making it harder to bring in more competition. It's in the customers best interests to not know how much they are paying. That guy is a crazy zealot.

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