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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
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      Don't forget that without net neutrality, AT&T has gone so far as to totally block Facebook from AT&T customers.

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      • mlnewsM
        mlnews
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        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/net-neutrality-activists-just-took-over-reddit-with-protest-posts/

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        • coliverC
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          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/charter-brags-about-big-speed-boost-after-saying-title-ii-stalled-investment/

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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            This is getting tiring...

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              bnrstnr
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              Once these net neutrality rules change and ISPs start blocking services and websites, does that change the terms of our contracts and are we then free to change providers without early termination fees?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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                @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                Once these net neutrality rules change and ISPs start blocking services and websites, does that change the terms of our contracts and are we then free to change providers without early termination fees?

                Depends on what the contract says. Chances are they didn't write a contract to include obligations to net neutrality, the law did that.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @bnrstnr
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                  @bnrstnr I would assume so.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @bnrstnr I would assume so.

                    Why would you think that?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      The bigger question is - do you have any real options to move to?

                      I don't. The best alternative option around here is 12/2 DSL.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @bnrstnr I would assume so.

                        That doesn't make any sense. That's like a million to one chance. First because they specifically would write contracts to make sure that this can't happen. And second because there is no trigger to make this different than any other time.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @bnrstnr I would assume so.

                          I have to agree with @JaredBusch and @scottalanmiller why would you think this would give you an out.

                          They most definitely have a clause that allows them to change their Terms of Service at will. All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

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                            bnrstnr @DustinB3403
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                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

                            I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @bnrstnr
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                              @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

                              I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

                              Again, nothing in the contract has to currently state word 1 about net-neutrality. The ability to change their terms at will as was existing in the contract you may have signed allows them to change it at will for any laws that may affect them.

                              IE, you agreed to these terms at the contract, and we may have a clause that says you can't back out of the contract except for in these <outlined events>.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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                                @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

                                I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

                                Those contracts are "always" written the opposite - stating that if they change, you are still stuck.

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                                  bnrstnr @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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                                    @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.

                                    Credit cards are governed by finance rules that are very different from ISPs.

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                                    • mlnewsM
                                      mlnews
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                                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/fcc-still-withholding-isps-responses-to-net-neutrality-complaints/

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                                        mlnews
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                                        FCC Hid 50,000 Net Neutrality Complaints from Repeal Docket

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                                          mlnews
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                                          Find Your Local Net Neutrality Protest

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                                          • DustinB3403D
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                                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/?amp=1

                                            A good read on the looming court battle to save Net neutrality

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