What Are You Watching Now
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
I think the little things, the tid bits from previous movies/shows is one of the major things that makes the show a good one.
Actually, for me, those are the worst parts. That's one of the things I like least in the Star Wars universe is the constant nods to nostalgia instead of stuff being original or standing on its own. Obviously I want a consistent universe, but I can't stand key characters popping up and doing cameos in every scenario. It's supposed to be this giant universe, but it plays out like it's all happening in a tiny village of maybe 3,000 people. There are apparently only about ten droids in the whole universe, every important person happens to drink at the same remote bar in the middle of nowhere a bazillion light years from anything else, no one every goes somewhere obvious, yet everyone runs into each other.
It's all just so over done. There isn't any "normal life" in the SW universe as shown, just one amazing coincidence after another.
When it's that obvious, I completely agree, like going to Tantooine - again.. ug! But there are other things, like the icecream bucket, I love this 'nod' as it were. Most people will have no idea that that relates to a previous bit in ESB, even though the supposed purpose is entirely different.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
I think the little things, the tid bits from previous movies/shows is one of the major things that makes the show a good one.
Actually, for me, those are the worst parts. That's one of the things I like least in the Star Wars universe is the constant nods to nostalgia instead of stuff being original or standing on its own. Obviously I want a consistent universe, but I can't stand key characters popping up and doing cameos in every scenario. It's supposed to be this giant universe, but it plays out like it's all happening in a tiny village of maybe 3,000 people. There are apparently only about ten droids in the whole universe, every important person happens to drink at the same remote bar in the middle of nowhere a bazillion light years from anything else, no one every goes somewhere obvious, yet everyone runs into each other.
It's all just so over done. There isn't any "normal life" in the SW universe as shown, just one amazing coincidence after another.
When it's that obvious, I completely agree, like going to Tantooine - again.. ug! But there are other things, like the icecream bucket, I love this 'nod' as it were. Most people will have no idea that that relates to a previous bit in ESB, even though the supposed purpose is entirely different.
I got a kick out of the "She's no good to me dead" line. I do hope that they keep Boba Fett completely out of the series.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
My conclusion about the Mandalorian: very few would think it very good if it were not sharing a timeframe with TLJ. It is cute, very meme-able, and has next to zero story or progression. If Star Wars fans weren't starving for anything that is above the level of a flaming pile of garbage they would not be so excited about. That said, I will keep watching it, but a good chunk of that motivation is driven by wanting to keep up with peers/friends in what they're talking about.
aww, the sharing with TLJ is because TLJ is so bad - the desire for something better is astronomical.. ok got it.
I think the little things, the tid bits from previous movies/shows is one of the major things that makes the show a good one.
Listen to yourself @Dashrender From what you've said, you're watching the show because it is Star Wars and it has fan service. Not trying to pick a fight here, just finding it funny. I am in the same camp for the most part.
Are you saying it's not great? and in doing so perhaps thinking you're picking a fight? lol no reason to think that.
I haven't said it's great - I said I'm enjoying it... it's definitely not great - I wouldn't call it slow if it was great.
I am saying it isn't great. My comment about not starting a fight is because I have seen too many discussions go from zero to "you're an idiot" way faster than I expected them to.
yeah, I really try not to be one of those. I know SW isn't perfect - TFA was a total rip off movie from ANH - and I was super disappointed by the need for yet another bloody deathstar! Come on, there were/are tons of other ideas for super weapons, none see on screen, but for whatever stupid reason, apparently SW can only have Deathstars.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
I think the little things, the tid bits from previous movies/shows is one of the major things that makes the show a good one.
Actually, for me, those are the worst parts. That's one of the things I like least in the Star Wars universe is the constant nods to nostalgia instead of stuff being original or standing on its own. Obviously I want a consistent universe, but I can't stand key characters popping up and doing cameos in every scenario. It's supposed to be this giant universe, but it plays out like it's all happening in a tiny village of maybe 3,000 people. There are apparently only about ten droids in the whole universe, every important person happens to drink at the same remote bar in the middle of nowhere a bazillion light years from anything else, no one every goes somewhere obvious, yet everyone runs into each other.
It's all just so over done. There isn't any "normal life" in the SW universe as shown, just one amazing coincidence after another.
When it's that obvious, I completely agree, like going to Tantooine - again.. ug! But there are other things, like the icecream bucket, I love this 'nod' as it were. Most people will have no idea that that relates to a previous bit in ESB, even though the supposed purpose is entirely different.
I got a kick out of the "She's no good to me dead" line. I do hope that they keep Boba Fett completely out of the series.
have you seen the latest rumors about the end of episode 5?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
I think the little things, the tid bits from previous movies/shows is one of the major things that makes the show a good one.
Actually, for me, those are the worst parts. That's one of the things I like least in the Star Wars universe is the constant nods to nostalgia instead of stuff being original or standing on its own. Obviously I want a consistent universe, but I can't stand key characters popping up and doing cameos in every scenario. It's supposed to be this giant universe, but it plays out like it's all happening in a tiny village of maybe 3,000 people. There are apparently only about ten droids in the whole universe, every important person happens to drink at the same remote bar in the middle of nowhere a bazillion light years from anything else, no one every goes somewhere obvious, yet everyone runs into each other.
It's all just so over done. There isn't any "normal life" in the SW universe as shown, just one amazing coincidence after another.
When it's that obvious, I completely agree, like going to Tantooine - again.. ug! But there are other things, like the icecream bucket, I love this 'nod' as it were. Most people will have no idea that that relates to a previous bit in ESB, even though the supposed purpose is entirely different.
I got a kick out of the "She's no good to me dead" line. I do hope that they keep Boba Fett completely out of the series.
have you seen the latest rumors about the end of episode 5?
Yeah, and that is why I said it. I hope the rumors are wrong. You're completely right about TFA. It was the worst SW movie since Ep 2. Then Rian Johnson said, "Hold my beer", and we have TLJ. I don't have any hope for Rise of something something.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
I think the little things, the tid bits from previous movies/shows is one of the major things that makes the show a good one.
Actually, for me, those are the worst parts. That's one of the things I like least in the Star Wars universe is the constant nods to nostalgia instead of stuff being original or standing on its own. Obviously I want a consistent universe, but I can't stand key characters popping up and doing cameos in every scenario. It's supposed to be this giant universe, but it plays out like it's all happening in a tiny village of maybe 3,000 people. There are apparently only about ten droids in the whole universe, every important person happens to drink at the same remote bar in the middle of nowhere a bazillion light years from anything else, no one every goes somewhere obvious, yet everyone runs into each other.
It's all just so over done. There isn't any "normal life" in the SW universe as shown, just one amazing coincidence after another.
When it's that obvious, I completely agree, like going to Tantooine - again.. ug! But there are other things, like the icecream bucket, I love this 'nod' as it were. Most people will have no idea that that relates to a previous bit in ESB, even though the supposed purpose is entirely different.
I got a kick out of the "She's no good to me dead" line. I do hope that they keep Boba Fett completely out of the series.
have you seen the latest rumors about the end of episode 5?
Yeah, and that is why I said it. I hope the rumors are wrong. You're completely right about TFA. It was the worst SW movie since Ep 2. Then Rian Johnson said, "Hold my beer", and we have TLJ. I don't have any hope for Rise of something something.
OMG, you're so right! I do have hope - probably because I'm a fool - for Rise.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
I think the little things, the tid bits from previous movies/shows is one of the major things that makes the show a good one.
Actually, for me, those are the worst parts. That's one of the things I like least in the Star Wars universe is the constant nods to nostalgia instead of stuff being original or standing on its own. Obviously I want a consistent universe, but I can't stand key characters popping up and doing cameos in every scenario. It's supposed to be this giant universe, but it plays out like it's all happening in a tiny village of maybe 3,000 people. There are apparently only about ten droids in the whole universe, every important person happens to drink at the same remote bar in the middle of nowhere a bazillion light years from anything else, no one every goes somewhere obvious, yet everyone runs into each other.
It's all just so over done. There isn't any "normal life" in the SW universe as shown, just one amazing coincidence after another.
When it's that obvious, I completely agree, like going to Tantooine - again.. ug! But there are other things, like the icecream bucket, I love this 'nod' as it were. Most people will have no idea that that relates to a previous bit in ESB, even though the supposed purpose is entirely different.
I got a kick out of the "She's no good to me dead" line. I do hope that they keep Boba Fett completely out of the series.
have you seen the latest rumors about the end of episode 5?
Oh no... no I haven't. But this sounds like a bad lead up.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
I do hope that they keep Boba Fett completely out of the series.
While that's necessary for it to be serious in any way.... I think we all know that that will never happen. Disney has zero capability to not have every possible character tie in in a Star Wars franchise. You know C3PO and R2D2 are going to pop in from time to time, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
I do hope that they keep Boba Fett completely out of the series.
While that's necessary for it to be serious in any way.... I think we all know that that will never happen. Disney has zero capability to not have every possible character tie in in a Star Wars franchise. You know C3PO and R2D2 are going to pop in from time to time, too.
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They had Timothy Zahn's best selling trilogy in hand and had to build a ramp, drive a JLG up and add a ladder to see past it. Sometimes....
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@scotth said in What Are You Watching Now:
They had Timothy Zahn's best selling trilogy in hand and had to build a ramp, drive a JLG up and add a ladder to see past it. Sometimes....
This was the most frustrating thing about TFA.
"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be."
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Watching Now:
They had Timothy Zahn's best selling trilogy in hand and had to build a ramp, drive a JLG up and add a ladder to see past it. Sometimes....
This was the most frustrating thing about TFA.
"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be."
I'm getting tilted just rereading that.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Watching Now:
They had Timothy Zahn's best selling trilogy in hand and had to build a ramp, drive a JLG up and add a ladder to see past it. Sometimes....
This was the most frustrating thing about TFA.
"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be."
I'm getting tilted just rereading that.
Amen
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@Kelly They could have ridden this thing out for another 6 movies easy and had old fans bringing in new fans by the thousands
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Watching Now:
They had Timothy Zahn's best selling trilogy in hand and had to build a ramp, drive a JLG up and add a ladder to see past it. Sometimes....
This was the most frustrating thing about TFA.
"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be."
I'm getting tilted just rereading that.
I'm with you. She was clearly on drugs and had just forgotten about the EU. Not that they had to go that direction, but damn.. another deathstar? /sigh.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Watching Now:
They had Timothy Zahn's best selling trilogy in hand and had to build a ramp, drive a JLG up and add a ladder to see past it. Sometimes....
This was the most frustrating thing about TFA.
"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be."
I'm getting tilted just rereading that.
I'm with you. She was clearly on drugs and had just forgotten about the EU. Not that they had to go that direction, but damn.. another deathstar? /sigh.
LOL, yeah. So many options and THAT'S what they came up with?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:
Personally - it's moving so slow! it's also currently episodic, when I am finding to like less and less in drama based shows. Sure there are some arcs, but they are pretty long and drawn out...
This is because it is a TV show and not a movie. In general, no one has consumed StarWars like this before. It is a new format for the mass market.
I'm not a super fan, but I do really like the StarWars univers, and I have a lot of EU books. But I have still never watched Clone Wars or Rebels. I seem to be in the majority of Star Wars fans.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
My conclusion about the Mandalorian: <ssnip> and has next to zero story or progression.
WTF? You want a TV series to be done in 1 episode? What would be the point of a series?
Get over the binge watching attitude of needing to see 10 hours of story at once.
That or wait until the season is over and then watch the fucking thing.
It may well turn out to be shit. But that is not what it looks like so far.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Watching Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
My conclusion about the Mandalorian: <ssnip> and has next to zero story or progression.
WTF? You want a TV series to be done in 1 episode? What would be the point of a series?
Get over the binge watching attitude of needing to see 10 hours of story at once.
That or wait until the season is over and then watch the fucking thing.
It may well turn out to be shit. But that is not what it looks like so far.
I'm probably in the minority. But so far the pacing of The Mandelorian has been pretty decent. It throws a ton of lore in there without going overboard, and gives you plenty of time during the show to digest what's going on.
It also, bizarrely, doesn't play the audience for stupid. Which is a nice change of pace.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:
if it were not sharing a timeframe with TLJ.
They have nothing to do with each other.
There is ~25 years between The Mandalorian and The Force Awakens. I believe The Last Jedi is within a year of The Force Awakens.