Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster
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@iroal said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@iroal said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@iroal said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
Thanks a lot for the Help.
It is incredible you call Microsoft and they don't know the answer.
Of course the reseller want to sell me the SA licences.
MS has no reason to answer, it costs them money to give free advice when really it is between you and your lawyer. Remember, MS is a business and makes the most money from you not getting easy answers. You have to pay their partners to tell you how you can use MS' software and because MS makes no comment, they have no legal ties to the advice. So you are always on your own. MS has no business reason to ensure that you are not living in fear of an audit.
Last year a received a call from MS. They give me a MS contact to ask him any doubt I could have about upgrades, products and licences.
When I call this contact last week He told that he will give the answer next day, I'm still waiting..
Was that really MS that called? MS does not normally call you.
Yes, his email is [email protected] and his address correspond to the central office in Madrid.
Okay, if you were able to have a back and forth email conversation at an MS address, that's good verification.
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This is what I go by: (updated as of February 2017)
MS Volume Licensing
Edit: Found the link: http://www.microsoftvolumelicensing.com/Downloader.aspx?DocumentId=11907(direct download to word doc)
Here's the page I got it from if English isn't your primary reading language: http://www.microsoftvolumelicensing.com/DocumentSearch.aspx?Mode=3&DocumentTypeId=1&ShowArchived=true
And for all MS products: http://www.microsoftvolumelicensing.com/Default.aspx
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@Tim_G said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
This is what I go by: (updated as of February 2017)
Hmm, can't seem to attach a file, only images. Let me see if I can find a link to it. I'll edit this when I do.
There is no file attach option. That's disabled.
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@Tim_G Updated.
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Pages 74-75 clearly state that Server SA has mobility.
Page 82 of that document clearly states what mobility is.There is no change from before.
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Page 82 also defines Disaster recovery rights.
To me, that reads, that I DO NOT need to be licensed on the hardware I am testing my backup on as long as it is within a week once ever 90 days.
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You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Also, the above linked Word Document doesn't discuss 2016 at all, so it's possible there is a new document with new rules.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
Also, the above linked Word Document doesn't discuss 2016 at all, so it's possible there is a new document with new rules.
It is completely applicable to Server 2016.
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@Tim_G said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
Also, the above linked Word Document doesn't discuss 2016 at all, so it's possible there is a new document with new rules.
It is completely applicable to Server 2016.
Yeah, WTF @Dashrender that is all about 2016.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Ummm WTF? You are wrong. SA has always given you mobility. No one has said anything else.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Ummm WTF? You are wrong. SA has always given you mobility. No one has said anything else.
yeah 90 day mobility, not daily or better.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
With Software Assurance license mobility, I believe that you can deploy two Windows 2016 Standard Packs, add on SA and then have the right to move the workloads between the two machines.
@JaredBusch this comment is what I'm talking about - If @scottalanmiller is talking about the fact that you can move workloads once every 90 days - OK, that's true, but reading his post, why would you think you'd be limited in this way? Why wouldn't you read that to mean that you can move it anytime you want.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Ummm WTF? You are wrong. SA has always given you mobility. No one has said anything else.
yeah 90 day mobility, not daily or better.
No, with SA you can move it whenever you want. You just have to ensure that both virtual machines associated with that SA license are always on the same host. That is not new.
You can move a non-SA license once every 90 days. This is not new.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
With Software Assurance license mobility, I believe that you can deploy two Windows 2016 Standard Packs, add on SA and then have the right to move the workloads between the two machines.
@JaredBusch this comment is what I'm talking about - If @scottalanmiller is talking about the fact that you can move workloads once every 90 days - OK, that's true, but reading his post, why would you think you'd be limited in this way? Why wouldn't you read that to mean that you can move it anytime you want.
There is no 90 day limit with SA.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Ummm WTF? You are wrong. SA has always given you mobility. No one has said anything else.
yeah 90 day mobility, not daily or better.
No, with SA you can move it whenever you want. You just have to ensure that both virtual machines associated with that SA license are always on the same host. That is not new.
You can move a non-SA license once every 90 days. This is not new.
So me where SA allows you to move it as often as you want, please - I'd like to see the MS black and white on that.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Ummm WTF? You are wrong. SA has always given you mobility. No one has said anything else.
yeah 90 day mobility, not daily or better.
No, with SA you can move it whenever you want. You just have to ensure that both virtual machines associated with that SA license are always on the same host. That is not new.
You can move a non-SA license once every 90 days. This is not new.
So me where SA allows you to move it as often as you want, please - I'd like to see the MS black and white on that.
That pages I noted above.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Ummm WTF? You are wrong. SA has always given you mobility. No one has said anything else.
yeah 90 day mobility, not daily or better.
No, with SA you can move it whenever you want. You just have to ensure that both virtual machines associated with that SA license are always on the same host. That is not new.
You can move a non-SA license once every 90 days. This is not new.
So me where SA allows you to move it as often as you want, please - I'd like to see the MS black and white on that.
That pages I noted above.
They don't say that.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
@Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Licences for cluster:
You just stated all of the old understandings. Nothing new.
Scott was implying above that there was a new thing with SA (or someone was) that SA alone now allowed you to move your server licenses between servers at will. But as you already pointed out, that's not the case, you can only move it once every 90 days.
Ummm WTF? You are wrong. SA has always given you mobility. No one has said anything else.
yeah 90 day mobility, not daily or better.
No, with SA you can move it whenever you want. You just have to ensure that both virtual machines associated with that SA license are always on the same host. That is not new.
You can move a non-SA license once every 90 days. This is not new.
So me where SA allows you to move it as often as you want, please - I'd like to see the MS black and white on that.
That pages I noted above.
They don't say that.
Right on page 82 as i said.
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You cannot move it to another farm (ie azure) and back in less than 90 days unless it also falls under the DR rules.
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OK so License mobility is something included in SA, in something called the Server Pool (not entirely sure what that is - yet) list on the top of page 75
https://i.imgur.com/LgB3BWe.pngthe portion under License Mobility reads
https://i.imgur.com/CO1aLN4.pngSo perhaps the part JB is talking about is
https://i.imgur.com/BhelJFk.pngWhat constitutes a Server Farm? Let's find out.
Under definitions we find.
https://i.imgur.com/htTf01P.pngOK then - holy shit! Where has this information been this whole time? This kills many SMBs need to have DC licensing for VM failover nodes. Right? SA is often way less expensive than DC licenses.
