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    • IRJI
      IRJ @art_of_shred
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      @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

      @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

      @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

      @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

      I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

      Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

      So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

      The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
      Windowss logs/System:

      A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

      I knew there was something in the logs 😉

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @IRJ
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        @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

        @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

        @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

        I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

        Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

        So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

        The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
        Windowss logs/System:

        A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

        I knew there was something in the logs 😉

        LOL nice.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Frankly I was thinking there might be something in the Client side log showing RDP was crashing - but now that Gene's found RDS Server side errors - he has something to go on.

          I'm guessing that some kind of data is trying to come back across the RDS session to the RDS server, but time will tell.

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred Banned @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

            Frankly I was thinking there might be something in the Client side log showing RDP was crashing - but now that Gene's found RDS Server side errors - he has something to go on.

            I'm guessing that some kind of data is trying to come back across the RDS session to the RDS server, but time will tell.

            Gene?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @art_of_shred
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              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

              @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

              Frankly I was thinking there might be something in the Client side log showing RDP was crashing - but now that Gene's found RDS Server side errors - he has something to go on.

              I'm guessing that some kind of data is trying to come back across the RDS session to the RDS server, but time will tell.

              Gene?

              Whoops.. I thought Gene started this thread - OK you just made Scott's point about some kind of tag that shows who the OP is 🙂

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              • art_of_shredA
                art_of_shred Banned @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                Windowss logs/System:

                A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                That's a security check issue.

                Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @art_of_shred
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                  @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                  "Allow local activation security check exemptions"

                  https://www.windows-security.org/f38da4d96a5f72e1696707ebd740bf53/allow-local-activation-security-check-exemptions

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @art_of_shred
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                    @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                    @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                    @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                    @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                    @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                    @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                    I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                    Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                    So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                    The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                    Windowss logs/System:

                    A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                    That's a security check issue.

                    Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                    Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

                    That looks like GPO

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                    • art_of_shredA
                      art_of_shred Banned @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                      Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                      So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                      The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                      Windowss logs/System:

                      A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                      That's a security check issue.

                      Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                      Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

                      That looks like GPO

                      I'm in local security policies, tried local group policies...

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @art_of_shred
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                        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                        Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                        So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                        The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                        Windowss logs/System:

                        A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                        That's a security check issue.

                        Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                        Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

                        That looks like GPO

                        I'm in local security policies, tried local group policies...

                        Perhaps you need to install newer ADMX updates?

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred Banned @art_of_shred
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                          @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                          Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                          So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                          The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                          Windowss logs/System:

                          A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                          That's a security check issue.

                          Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                          Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

                          That looks like GPO

                          I'm in local security policies, tried local group policies...

                          There is no local group policy editor installed on the RDS server. At least not that I can find.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @art_of_shred
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                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                            Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                            So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                            The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                            Windowss logs/System:

                            A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                            That's a security check issue.

                            Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                            Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

                            That looks like GPO

                            I'm in local security policies, tried local group policies...

                            There is no local group policy editor installed on the RDS server. At least not that I can find.

                            That's not what I mean. Group Policy manager should be run from either an admin workstation in that domain, or from a DC itself. Modern Group Policy uses a central store for ADMX files so everyone see the same settings. These settings get updated by installing new version of the ADMX files from MS. Each new version of Windows means you need to download and install the newest ADMX pack to the central store.

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                            • art_of_shredA
                              art_of_shred Banned @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                              Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                              So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                              The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                              Windowss logs/System:

                              A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                              That's a security check issue.

                              Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                              Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

                              That looks like GPO

                              I'm in local security policies, tried local group policies...

                              There is no local group policy editor installed on the RDS server. At least not that I can find.

                              That's not what I mean. Group Policy manager should be run from either an admin workstation in that domain, or from a DC itself. Modern Group Policy uses a central store for ADMX files so everyone see the same settings. These settings get updated by installing new version of the ADMX files from MS. Each new version of Windows means you need to download and install the newest ADMX pack to the central store.

                              I searched group policy management up and down (on the DC) and can't find computer configuration anywhere.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                Maybe this is what you're missing?

                                https://i.imgur.com/lXXuPJR.png

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22
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                                  @art_of_shred Dashrender's screenshot is correct

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    any luck?

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                                    • Minion QueenM
                                      Minion Queen Banned
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                                      @art_of_shred is stuck on another client issue right now

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                                      • art_of_shredA
                                        art_of_shred Banned
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                                        Got pulled away for an emergency. I'll check it out and report back. Thanks!

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ
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                                          I am not convinced that Outlook is causing the issue. It seems like something is trying to launch with remote privileges. I would look at your DCOM settings.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @IRJ
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                                            @IRJ Agreed

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