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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Quite odd, I have not experienced that before.

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      • CloudKnightC
        CloudKnight
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        Sounds odd that one, what about testing and disabling local resources on the RDP client to see if there is any local interference? (i.e audio) might be a worthwhile test? also could try reducing the screen resolution?

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        • IRJI
          IRJ
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          I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred @IRJ
            last edited by

            @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

            I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

            Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @art_of_shred
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              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

              @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

              I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

              Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

              So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22
                last edited by

                How far away is the main site from the satellite office?

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                • Minion QueenM
                  Minion Queen @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                  How far away is the main site from the satellite office?

                  One is in Rural DownState NY the other is in NC.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22
                    last edited by wirestyle22

                    What are the system specs of the workstations they are using as well as the network equipment installed? 200ms seems high for ny state to north carolina. I have a friend who lives in raleigh (I live in NJ) and we have much less than even 75ms if I try to remote to one of his servers.

                    My last company had a similar setup. 33 sites remoting to a single terminal server at the main site to access network resources.

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                    • art_of_shredA
                      art_of_shred @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                      What are the system specs of the workstations they are using as well as the network equipment installed? 200ms seems high for ny state to north carolina. I have a friend who lives in raleigh (I live in NJ) and we have much less than even 75ms if I try to remote to one of his servers.

                      My last company had a similar setup. 33 sites remoting to a single terminal server at the main site to access network resources.

                      Keep in mind that the main office is more or less in a corn field, 5 miles outside a dinky town, and the only cellphone service there is via the wifi in the building. The ISP is the local phone company. On the other side, the location is outside a small city area, but at least on a road with a couple other businesses nearby. I'm getting those pings from a server at the main location pinging the router at the remote location. It's not always that bad, but we see it more than occasionally in that range.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @art_of_shred
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                        What are the system specs of the workstations they are using as well as the network equipment installed? 200ms seems high for ny state to north carolina. I have a friend who lives in raleigh (I live in NJ) and we have much less than even 75ms if I try to remote to one of his servers.

                        My last company had a similar setup. 33 sites remoting to a single terminal server at the main site to access network resources.

                        Keep in mind that the main office is more or less in a corn field, 5 miles outside a dinky town, and the only cellphone service there is via the wifi in the building. The ISP is the local phone company. On the other side, the location is outside a small city area, but at least on a road with a couple other businesses nearby. I'm getting those pings from a server at the main location pinging the router at the remote location. It's not always that bad, but we see it more than occasionally in that range.

                        That is a really rough situation. Did you try to RDP into it from your own computer? Can you maintain a connection? Could be the ISP. Could also be a lack of memory to run all of that on the local workstations.

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                          I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                          Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                          So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                          The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                          Windowss logs/System:

                          A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @art_of_shred
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                            I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                            Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                            So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                            The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                            Windowss logs/System:

                            A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                            That's a security check issue.

                            Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @art_of_shred
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                              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                              I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                              Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                              So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                              The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                              Windowss logs/System:

                              A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                              I knew there was something in the logs 😉

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @IRJ
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                                @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                                Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                                So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                                The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                                Windowss logs/System:

                                A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                                I knew there was something in the logs 😉

                                LOL nice.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Frankly I was thinking there might be something in the Client side log showing RDP was crashing - but now that Gene's found RDS Server side errors - he has something to go on.

                                  I'm guessing that some kind of data is trying to come back across the RDS session to the RDS server, but time will tell.

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                                  • art_of_shredA
                                    art_of_shred @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                    Frankly I was thinking there might be something in the Client side log showing RDP was crashing - but now that Gene's found RDS Server side errors - he has something to go on.

                                    I'm guessing that some kind of data is trying to come back across the RDS session to the RDS server, but time will tell.

                                    Gene?

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @art_of_shred
                                      last edited by

                                      @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                      @Dashrender said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                      Frankly I was thinking there might be something in the Client side log showing RDP was crashing - but now that Gene's found RDS Server side errors - he has something to go on.

                                      I'm guessing that some kind of data is trying to come back across the RDS session to the RDS server, but time will tell.

                                      Gene?

                                      Whoops.. I thought Gene started this thread - OK you just made Scott's point about some kind of tag that shows who the OP is 🙂

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                                      • art_of_shredA
                                        art_of_shred @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                        @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                        @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                        @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                        I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                                        Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                                        So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                                        The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                                        Windowss logs/System:

                                        A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                                        That's a security check issue.

                                        Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                                        Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @art_of_shred
                                          last edited by

                                          @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                          "Allow local activation security check exemptions"

                                          https://www.windows-security.org/f38da4d96a5f72e1696707ebd740bf53/allow-local-activation-security-check-exemptions

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @art_of_shred
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                                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                            @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                            @art_of_shred said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                            @IRJ said in RDS / Outlook interactions causing crashes?:

                                            I feel like part of the story is missing. Do you have any logs to prove this?

                                            Logs to prove what? That the RDS session is dropping out?

                                            So no errors just a dropped connection? That doesn't make sense

                                            The RDS server has these that seem likely to correspond to the drops:
                                            Windowss logs/System:

                                            A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 10. The Windows SChannel error state is 1203.

                                            That's a security check issue.

                                            Go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Distributed COM > Application Compatibility and enable "Allow local activation security check exemptions".

                                            Where is that? I can't find it anywhere...

                                            That looks like GPO

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