CenturyLink, you so fancy!



  • The US Government is the only sanctioned monopoly in the US.

    It's illegal to try to create another Government to rule over the US.



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @pchiodo ha, but it is the only paid one.

    And no, that isn't it.

    Are you thinking the post office and non-overnight letters? Still a "paid" service.

    Frankly, there are quite a number of de facto monopolies, such as Mallinckodt (only legal supplier of cocaine). Or professional sports to some degree. Making and selling alcohol can be depending on the jurisdiction.

    But I bet you're thinking the post office.



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    So to give everyone a legal question, what is the only legal monopoly in the US?

    That's a trick question... but various ISPs have been accused of being a monopoly, wireless carriers in certain rural areas have been accused of monopolizing, even Wal*Mart has been accused in smaller towns.

    There are no legal ones, but I would suppose the biggest one was nearly Comcast purchasing Time Warner. Until the FCC shut that down and Charter bought TW.

    The current one though, at least in our state (aside from ISPs), is Uhaul. They're the only one in the business that offers various tiers of travel/trucks/mileage at a decent price. Other ones you can only move in town, can't move towns over.



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    The US Government is the only sanctioned monopoly in the US.

    It's illegal to try to create another Government to rule over the US.

    Haha, knew that was a trick question!



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    The US Government is the only sanctioned monopoly in the US.

    It's illegal to try to create another Government to rule over the US.

    Well, isn't this the case with all countries?



  • @pchiodo Nope, with the post office you have UPS, DSL and FedEx.

    So that isn't even close.



  • @pchiodo said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    The US Government is the only sanctioned monopoly in the US.

    It's illegal to try to create another Government to rule over the US.

    Well, isn't this the case with all countries?

    No, actually the US forbids it, in countries (and just pulling a name out of a hat) Cuba, can be over thrown and ruled by a new government at any time.

    And will actually go to civil war levels to stop another "faction" from becoming the new government.



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @pchiodo said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    The US Government is the only sanctioned monopoly in the US.

    It's illegal to try to create another Government to rule over the US.

    Well, isn't this the case with all countries?

    No, actually the US forbids it, in countries (and just pulling a name out of a hat) Cuba, can be over thrown and ruled by a new government at any time.

    And will actually go to civil war levels to stop another "faction" from becoming the new government.

    A law in this case is meaningless though. If the current government is overthrown, new laws would replace the old. So what difference does it make, other than perhaps you can't legally find a non violent way to change our government?



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @pchiodo Nope, with the post office you have UPS, DSL and FedEx.

    So that isn't even close.

    Absolutely not true. The USPS has a strict monopoly on non-overnight letters known commonly as First Class or Third Class mail. No one else can offer these services in the US by statute.

    "an exclusive legal right to deliver first-class and third-class mail"

    "Article I, section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution grants Congress the power to establish post offices and post roads, which has been interpreted as a de facto Congressional monopoly over the delivery of first class residential mail - which has been defined as non-urgent residential letters (not packages). Accordingly, no other system for delivering first class residential mail – public or private – has been tolerated, absent Congress's consent."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service



  • @pchiodo You can overnight deliver a letter via fedex or UPS as well. Postage isn't a monopoly just because of a specific set of rules.


  • Banned

    We've had great service from all of our enterprise class providers. Centruylink was great as well, though they did have one outage caused by them replacing a border router and instead of putting the old one back when they saw it didn't work they keeped working on the new one's config for several hours before switching back.



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @pchiodo You can overnight deliver a letter via fedex or UPS as well. Postage isn't a monopoly just because of a specific set of rules.

    No other company is allowed to offer the same service as First Class Mail, which is what @pchiodo is focusing on here. Sure, you can send a letter with UPS and FedEx, but you won't get a service equivalent to the generic mail service most people are familiar with.



  • @travisdh1 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @pchiodo You can overnight deliver a letter via fedex or UPS as well. Postage isn't a monopoly just because of a specific set of rules.

    No other company is allowed to offer the same service as First Class Mail, which is what @pchiodo is focusing on here. Sure, you can send a letter with UPS and FedEx, but you won't get a service equivalent to the generic mail service most people are familiar with.

    You mean a round-a-bout path to a destination in the same state, like to California and then back to New York?



  • CenturyLink are the clueless Savvis people. They showed up at a SpiceWorld one time and blew it big time. Their reps literally could not even tell us what their product was. I made a point of asking, they had no idea.



  • @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @travisdh1 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @DustinB3403 said in CenturyLink, you so fancy!:

    @pchiodo You can overnight deliver a letter via fedex or UPS as well. Postage isn't a monopoly just because of a specific set of rules.

    No other company is allowed to offer the same service as First Class Mail, which is what @pchiodo is focusing on here. Sure, you can send a letter with UPS and FedEx, but you won't get a service equivalent to the generic mail service most people are familiar with.

    You mean a round-a-bout path to a destination in the same state, like to California and then back to New York?

    Oh, don't get me started. A box was meant to go from us in Killbuck, OH to Mt. Vernon, OH. Takes 45 minutes to drive. The box was lost for a month. Got the insurance for the shipment and sent out a 2nd box. After a total of 6 months, the originally shipped box shows up. 6 months to go 32.4 miles! And nobody could find it in all that time!


  • Banned

    The door to door salesman normally don't even work for the ISP they work in conjunction with the ISP in order to sell contracted services at higher rates. These guys work purely off commission in most cases so they're pretty good liars as well. CenturyLink is the old qwest... they weren't good either. It's really shitty service here in Denver with abnormally high downtime and poor speeds. They do the same thing the cable providers do and over stuff trunks.


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