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    Hard reset - what does it mean to you?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      Ran aground of a definition difference in Telegram, so I'll as you MLers - what is a Hard Reset in terms of your phone?

      JB and Bill need not reply until several other people do first.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen
        last edited by

        Hard reset = doing a complete clean factory reset.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
          last edited by

          When you force it to power off and back on? Anything short of a "factory reset"?

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
            last edited by

            Pulling the battery or doing a manual shutdown by holding the power button.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ
              last edited by

              Hard reset means forced power cycle to me. Soft reset is a reboot.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by

                Hard Reset is a forced power off reboot. Remove battery or button combo depending on the phone model.

                factory reset is a factory reset.

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco
                  last edited by

                  I had the first correct response - what do I win?

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @RojoLoco
                    last edited by

                    @RojoLoco said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                    I had the first correct response - what do I win?

                    This isn't jeopardy, you can't answer in the form of a question so I win.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
                      last edited by

                      @RojoLoco said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                      When you force it to power off and back on? Anything short of a "factory reset"?

                      Yep this, pulling the power out of the device (essentially) without the factory reset.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                        I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                        A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it, but the idea is no data loss (unless data is lost because the device was hung and you are rebooting to start it working again).

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Hard Reset involves a power cycle.

                          Soft reset doesn't break the power circuit from the CPU/memory.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller
                            last edited by

                            Hard reset involves a car, a can of sardines, two people of short stature, fishing line, a coffee can (empty), bottle of cheap vodka and two hours.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                              There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                              I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                              A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                              Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                              Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                              If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                                I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                                A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                                Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                                Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                                If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

                                I call it a reboot - doesn't matter that you're forcing it, it's still a reboot. - and actually it's not even that. It's Power down and Power up.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                  @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                  There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                                  I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                                  A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                                  Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                                  Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                                  If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

                                  I call it a reboot - doesn't matter that you're forcing it, it's still a reboot. - and actually it's not even that. It's Power down and Power up.

                                  It IS a reboot. The discussion is about what kind of reboot - soft or hard. Bench people have to know which they are doing. They are both reboots.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reboot_(computing)

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                                    • Minion QueenM
                                      Minion Queen
                                      last edited by

                                      But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Minion Queen
                                        last edited by

                                        @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                        But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                        On iPhone hold home and the lock button (pre iphone 7) to do so. No idea how it works on iPhone 7 yet.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Minion Queen
                                          last edited by

                                          @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                          But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                          yeah - JB tried logicing me on Telegram about the hard reset coming from the ancient PC days when they had actual power switches, flipping is physically removed power from the system, aka a hard power down.

                                          I agree with Minion-Queen, short of removing the battery, phones don't have this option.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            factory reset wasn't really a thing with PCs until Apple did it with the Macs (no clue when they added that - boot to BIOS with enough information to get the NIC on the internet and redownload the image for the system).

                                            Windows still doesn't have this option.

                                            Windows does include a 'restore to original' option, but I don't think it's really as clean as a phone is. In other words, if I get a virus, I'm still wiping the Windows machine and reinstalling from external media, but with a phone, a factory reset, generally I haven't been concerned that a virus could survive that (but now it seems that some can).

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