What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.wait... what.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.wait... what.
Because I didn't make sense or you find it laughable?
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.wait... what.
Because I didn't make sense or you find it laughable?
Laughable
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Whew. I'm not in the Twilight Zone. I was beginning to think that I was alone on this planet
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Whew. I'm not in the Twilight Zone. I was beginning to think that I was alone on this planet
what's he arguing though?
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Whew. I'm not in the Twilight Zone. I was beginning to think that I was alone on this planet
what's he arguing though?
That it doesn't do anything anyway. I don't like to fight and argue, but I feel a rage coming on. I've explained and diagrammed. I can introduce him to any number of experienced electricians from residential up through industrial and I doubt he would come on board. Not just grunts. People experienced with heavily inductive environments having to deal with power, control and signal. Oh well. I guess he can afford to buy some boards.
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Whew. I'm not in the Twilight Zone. I was beginning to think that I was alone on this planet
what's he arguing though?
That it doesn't do anything anyway. I don't like to fight and argue, but I feel a rage coming on. I've explained and diagrammed. I can introduce him to any number of experienced electricians from residential up through industrial and I doubt he would come on board. Not just grunts. People experienced with heavily inductive environments having to deal with power, control and signal. Oh well. I guess he can afford to buy some boards.
oh my..
good luck -
I'm out. The operations manager is on site. He can argue with him.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
https://i.imgur.com/9oKmt10.png
Good enough for something that is so far out of support it took me 20 minutes to even find how to fix this yesterday.
I cant believe they wont buy new terminals and get rid of these old garbage ones.Many businesses won’t replace stuff until total failure... rarely do they do planned replacement.
To force the issue, vendors have to raise rates to make staying on old shot so high that not upgrading costs more than upgradeing.
like what Microsoft is doing to Windows 7 ?
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
https://i.imgur.com/9oKmt10.png
Good enough for something that is so far out of support it took me 20 minutes to even find how to fix this yesterday.
I cant believe they wont buy new terminals and get rid of these old garbage ones.Many businesses won’t replace stuff until total failure... rarely do they do planned replacement.
To force the issue, vendors have to raise rates to make staying on old shot so high that not upgrading costs more than upgradeing.
like what Microsoft is doing to Windows 7 ?
Exactly!
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damn office chairs, everywhere I go all there is is crappy office chairs.
get home at night and can't sit in my multi million dollar reclining everything coz my backside is smashed from sitting on crappy office chairs all day.
bad mood approaching, coz of crappy office chairs.me at work
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.I can see the problem as both shielding and grounding is complicated. Probably because there are several different reasons for both and the best option in one situation is the worst in another. Was it network cabling or something else?
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Watching next video in basics of BASH scripting course, then heading to sleep.
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Hanging out with the wife before heading off to bed.
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@Pete-S said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.I can see the problem as both shielding and grounding is complicated. Probably because there are several different reasons for both and the best option in one situation is the worst in another. Was it network cabling or something else?
Just straight up comms. tx rx common shield.
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Pete-S said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.I can see the problem as both shielding and grounding is complicated. Probably because there are several different reasons for both and the best option in one situation is the worst in another. Was it network cabling or something else?
Just straight up comms. tx rx common shield.
So RS232 I assume. What did he want to do? Ground the shield in both sides?
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@Pete-S said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Pete-S said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.I can see the problem as both shielding and grounding is complicated. Probably because there are several different reasons for both and the best option in one situation is the worst in another. Was it network cabling or something else?
Just straight up comms. tx rx common shield.
So RS232 I assume. What did he want to do? Ground the shield in both sides?
1st -- since "the shield doesn't really do anything, anyway", he wouldn't connect it to anything.
2nd -- connect both ends
3rd -- connect it in the endpoint device.
4th -- after I passed along as much information as I could, they finally connected it correctly. I'm sure that someone will take credit for it. I'm ok with that. Just get the damned job done.
And, oh yes, they blew the comm driver chip on the 1st try in the endpoint device. Nice little hole in it.I'm done with this. Hopefully, they'll have learned. Time will tell.
EDIT: They blamed the issue on overhead wires. The owner and I had a little talk. I'm not interested in getting anyone fired, but I won't let the same bunch hook up the next one without supervision. -
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Pete-S said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Pete-S said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What am I doing right now?
Arguing with our tech about attaching the shield in shielded wire to source ground while leaving the other end open.I can see the problem as both shielding and grounding is complicated. Probably because there are several different reasons for both and the best option in one situation is the worst in another. Was it network cabling or something else?
Just straight up comms. tx rx common shield.
So RS232 I assume. What did he want to do? Ground the shield in both sides?
1st -- since "the shield doesn't really do anything, anyway", he wouldn't connect it to anything.
2nd -- connect both ends
3rd -- connect it in the endpoint device.
4th -- after I passed along as much information as I could, they finally connected it correctly. I'm sure that someone will take credit for it. I'm ok with that. Just get the damned job done.
And, oh yes, they blew the comm driver chip on the 1st try in the endpoint device. Nice little hole in it.I'm done with this. Hopefully, they'll have learned. Time will tell.
EDIT: They blamed the issue on overhead wires. The owner and I had a little talk. I'm not interested in getting anyone fired, but I won't let the same bunch hook up the next one without supervision.I wouldn't keep my hopes up. We do a lot of work in factories and such so we have seen a lot of serial communication. Usually avoiding RS232 though and using RS422 or 485 because of all the interference. Nowadays it's a lot of industrial ethernet and fiber. It's easier to install but we still have double check that the shielding on CAT6 is connected - every time.
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Trying to find information on what RDS/DEVICE/USER Cal's we have.
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The company cleaned out a storage locker yesterday. Mostly junk from an old office but one"decent" find is a Shuttle DS-81 mini PC that says "monitoring port" on it. It's a celelron so not much CPU but has dual gig nic's. Might put PFSense on it to play.
