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    • momurdaM
      momurda @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller
      What is the point of using powershell to do something? Cant do a GD thing without being in admin mode. Why even have a nonprivileged mode?
      Everytime i try to use it, even for simple things, i have to close my current session and reopen as administrator. So annoying. Where is sudo equivalent? Ive seen these fake sudo functions people make for powershell. MS has had 15 years to do this correctly, and has done not a single bleeping thing about it.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @momurda
        last edited by

        @momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller
        What is the point of using powershell to do something? Cant do a GD thing without being in admin mode. Why even have a nonprivileged mode?

        LOL, it's true.

        Except, when I'm in BASH on Linux, I can go all down without needing those permissions. PS just isn't used for much yet, but in theory it could be. On Linux I actually work in the shell all day, so needing su or sudo isn't very common because I'm doing normal tasks, not admin ones, most of the time.

        The issue is on Windows, PS is used almost exclusively to manage the OS rather than to actually do tasks, hence the weird issue that UAC is constantly needed.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @momurda
          last edited by

          @momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Everytime i try to use it, even for simple things, i have to close my current session and reopen as administrator.

          Just always run as admin.

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          • momurdaM
            momurda
            last edited by

            Just installed powershell 6. run it, try to update the help files. Just LOL.
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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite
              last edited by black3dynamite

              On Linux, I can use sudo pwsh to have admin privileges when using PowerShell.

              # Admin Privileges
              sudo pwsh
              
              # Non-Admin Privileges
              pwsh
              
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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                last edited by

                @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                On Linux, I can use sudo pwsh to have admin privileges when using PowerShell.

                # Admin Privileges
                sudo pwsh
                
                # Non-Admin Privileges
                pwsh
                

                Yeah, a little silly that it is actually easier to use on Linux, in that sense.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  • momurdaM
                    momurda @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch Is that considered slow? 40 minutes for 26 miles would be best traffic since the 1990s here.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      UAC is so GD dumb.

                      Oh man, after yesterday's posts, just wait, you're going to get it!

                      No he isn't going to "get it" you're the person being a dumbass in yesterdays case. @momurda understands the issue, whereas you're refusing to take what I told you as a fact because of your inexperience administering windows.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        .... issue, whereas you're refusing to take what I told you as a fact because of your inexperience administering windows.

                        You didn't tell me anything. We weren't discussing Windows, we were discussing the value of a blank video. You are just making up that I even responded about the Windows issue other than to point out over and over that I wasn't talking about it.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          .... issue, whereas you're refusing to take what I told you as a fact because of your inexperience administering windows.

                          You didn't tell me anything. We weren't discussing Windows, we were discussing the value of a blank video. You are just making up that I even responded about the Windows issue other than to point out over and over that I wasn't talking about it.

                          And again, you're skipping facts. . . Clearly the video isn't blank, it goes blank for the 6 seconds I'm typing credentials into a UAC prompt.

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings @momurda
                            last edited by

                            @momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Just installed powershell 6. run it, try to update the help files. Just LOL.
                            0_1523553716288_b259f768-18ed-4c4a-8dcb-973c2a151ba8-image.png

                            I think you've always had to run an elevated session of PowerShell to run update-help.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              .... issue, whereas you're refusing to take what I told you as a fact because of your inexperience administering windows.

                              You didn't tell me anything. We weren't discussing Windows, we were discussing the value of a blank video. You are just making up that I even responded about the Windows issue other than to point out over and over that I wasn't talking about it.

                              And again, you're skipping facts. . . Clearly the video isn't blank, it goes blank for the 6 seconds I'm typing credentials into a UAC prompt.

                              Sorry, just focusing on the relevant bit. The bit with the timing that was the only purpose of the video is blank.

                              How obtuse can you be? This is SO simple. The video is useless. Admit it, move on instead of trying to blame other people for random things just bceause you failed to make a point.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                .... issue, whereas you're refusing to take what I told you as a fact because of your inexperience administering windows.

                                You didn't tell me anything. We weren't discussing Windows, we were discussing the value of a blank video. You are just making up that I even responded about the Windows issue other than to point out over and over that I wasn't talking about it.

                                And again, you're skipping facts. . . Clearly the video isn't blank, it goes blank for the 6 seconds I'm typing credentials into a UAC prompt.

                                Sorry, just focusing on the relevant bit. The bit with the timing that was the only purpose of the video is blank.

                                How obtuse can you be? This is SO simple. The video is useless. Admit it, move on instead of trying to blame other people for random things just bceause you failed to make a point.

                                Wow you head is so far up your ass on this one.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  .... issue, whereas you're refusing to take what I told you as a fact because of your inexperience administering windows.

                                  You didn't tell me anything. We weren't discussing Windows, we were discussing the value of a blank video. You are just making up that I even responded about the Windows issue other than to point out over and over that I wasn't talking about it.

                                  And again, you're skipping facts. . . Clearly the video isn't blank, it goes blank for the 6 seconds I'm typing credentials into a UAC prompt.

                                  Sorry, just focusing on the relevant bit. The bit with the timing that was the only purpose of the video is blank.

                                  How obtuse can you be? This is SO simple. The video is useless. Admit it, move on instead of trying to blame other people for random things just bceause you failed to make a point.

                                  Wow you head is so far up your ass on this one.

                                  Because nothing you said is correct. UAC doesn't blank out video, there is a really trivial way to show this stuff (like I said.) Basically, when I say that Windows is easy you claim I'm an idiot and dont' know Windows and say that you can't show this stuff for whatever reason. I also point out that the timing isn't shown and you ignore the fundamental fact that you didn't show any useful timing. Everything you said, from UAC keeping the screen from being recorded, to the PS being fast (we think) to how long it takes to do, to what the video shows, was wrong.

                                  If you wanted to show how fast PS is, you'd have done something like this, which was no effort at all and shows four seconds AFTER a UAC...

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Now do you see why I'm confused by your belief that Windows can't be shown, and why a blank screen doesn't tell us anything?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      The entire basis for you saying I don't know Windows was because I was an idiot because I didn't know that you coudln't record someone typing in their UAC creds.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Without UAC, PS takes two seconds. Not horrible, but not all that fast. Better than I typically see, but I normally only see it with UAC as @momurda pointed out.

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                                        • KellyK
                                          Kelly
                                          last edited by

                                          Hey @scottalanmiller and @DustinB3403 could you guys drop it, or take it to PMs. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm tired of the wrangling in this thread.

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Without UAC, PS takes two seconds. Not horrible, but not all that fast. Better than I typically see, but I normally only see it with UAC as @momurda pointed out.

                                            The fuck I'm gonna wait 2 whole seconds for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's the goddamned 21st century, for fuck's sake!!!!!!!!!! Everything should be instantly instant!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have zero milliseconds to spare while your OS horseshit gets sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIMME MY MOTHERFUCKING POWERSHELL NOW, YOU FUCKING SLOW ASS BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                            /end sarcasm
                                            /get a fucking life if you were seriously debating how long it takes fucking powershell to open
                                            /I weep for your souls.... please find a fucking hobby
                                            /try getting laid.... it might calm you down a bit

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