What Are You Doing Right Now
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@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Our doctor's office just emailed us to tell us that 2+ years of medical records were lost because they weren't testing backups. They kept getting a "your backup was successful" message, but no one looked to see if that was true.
So not only did they totally lose their medical records system (um, really?) but they don't have working backups.
I'll hold my hands up on this too, we are terrible and testing.
But that's about to change as i'm reviewing our entire backup and testing procedures over the next month or two.
We check all customers backups every week, and the majority get a test restore done at least once a month too, just to be on the safe side - so might be worth doing test restores as well - no good making sure the backup works if you're unable to restore the data if it does die!
If by checking you mean looking at the logs.... That's not really checking. A restore is the only real check. Of course having logs that day the backups were successful is a good first step.
Full logs checked every week, and any warnings/errors raised to be fixed
Checking means actually doing a restore. The doctors office that just lost everything has clear logs, too.
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Yup. That's the real name of the rice here.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Our doctor's office just emailed us to tell us that 2+ years of medical records were lost because they weren't testing backups. They kept getting a "your backup was successful" message, but no one looked to see if that was true.
So not only did they totally lose their medical records system (um, really?) but they don't have working backups.
I'll hold my hands up on this too, we are terrible and testing.
But that's about to change as i'm reviewing our entire backup and testing procedures over the next month or two.
We check all customers backups every week, and the majority get a test restore done at least once a month too, just to be on the safe side - so might be worth doing test restores as well - no good making sure the backup works if you're unable to restore the data if it does die!
If by checking you mean looking at the logs.... That's not really checking. A restore is the only real check. Of course having logs that day the backups were successful is a good first step.
Full logs checked every week, and any warnings/errors raised to be fixed
Checking means actually doing a restore. The doctors office that just lost everything has clear logs, too.
Fair enough, that's once a month then!
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@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Our doctor's office just emailed us to tell us that 2+ years of medical records were lost because they weren't testing backups. They kept getting a "your backup was successful" message, but no one looked to see if that was true.
So not only did they totally lose their medical records system (um, really?) but they don't have working backups.
I'll hold my hands up on this too, we are terrible and testing.
But that's about to change as i'm reviewing our entire backup and testing procedures over the next month or two.
We check all customers backups every week, and the majority get a test restore done at least once a month too, just to be on the safe side - so might be worth doing test restores as well - no good making sure the backup works if you're unable to restore the data if it does die!
If by checking you mean looking at the logs.... That's not really checking. A restore is the only real check. Of course having logs that day the backups were successful is a good first step.
Full logs checked every week, and any warnings/errors raised to be fixed
Checking means actually doing a restore. The doctors office that just lost everything has clear logs, too.
Fair enough, that's once a month then!
yeah, What Scott said is what I was going for.
The reality is that Scott's doctor's office probably never did a test restore, even one would have shown the issue most likely.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Our doctor's office just emailed us to tell us that 2+ years of medical records were lost because they weren't testing backups. They kept getting a "your backup was successful" message, but no one looked to see if that was true.
So not only did they totally lose their medical records system (um, really?) but they don't have working backups.
I'll hold my hands up on this too, we are terrible and testing.
But that's about to change as i'm reviewing our entire backup and testing procedures over the next month or two.
We check all customers backups every week, and the majority get a test restore done at least once a month too, just to be on the safe side - so might be worth doing test restores as well - no good making sure the backup works if you're unable to restore the data if it does die!
If by checking you mean looking at the logs.... That's not really checking. A restore is the only real check. Of course having logs that day the backups were successful is a good first step.
Full logs checked every week, and any warnings/errors raised to be fixed
Checking means actually doing a restore. The doctors office that just lost everything has clear logs, too.
Fair enough, that's once a month then!
yeah, What Scott said is what I was going for.
The reality is that Scott's doctor's office probably never did a test restore, even one would have shown the issue most likely.
They did not, no one did. They just checked the logs, saw no errors and assumed that it would work.
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How do yall feel about Veeam B&R's SureBackup? Is that as reliable as checking the backups themselves or do you actually check for VM functionality in an isolated environment?
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Cursing Microsoft for screwing my skype account..lolz
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Ur OK..........I've just attached a USB RDX drive to my Xen7 host......... How do I attach it to my VM(s)??
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This is a funny thread...
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962728-virtualizing-old-laptop-hard-drives
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It's amazing to me how many lengthy discussions on SW come down to just not knowing what basic technology is and having crazy assumptions about it. Like if people just knew what SAN and NAS were it would answer 90% of threads. Instead we have to have lengthy explanations over and over because lacking that simple knowledge of "what it is" leads to all kinds of insanity.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It's amazing to me how many lengthy discussions on SW come down to just not knowing what basic technology is and having crazy assumptions about it. Like if people just knew what SAN and NAS were it would answer 90% of threads. Instead we have to have lengthy explanations over and over because lacking that simple knowledge of "what it is" leads to all kinds of insanity.
Why do you think so many with so little knowledge end up in SW?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It's amazing to me how many lengthy discussions on SW come down to just not knowing what basic technology is and having crazy assumptions about it. Like if people just knew what SAN and NAS were it would answer 90% of threads. Instead we have to have lengthy explanations over and over because lacking that simple knowledge of "what it is" leads to all kinds of insanity.
Why do you think so many with so little knowledge end up in SW?
My guess is that it is because most IT people aren't really IT people. They may work in the profession but they don't have the critical thinking skills or ability to do much within it. SMBs aren't capable (willing?) of spending the money for competent IT people so they go for whomever is cheapest.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It's amazing to me how many lengthy discussions on SW come down to just not knowing what basic technology is and having crazy assumptions about it. Like if people just knew what SAN and NAS were it would answer 90% of threads. Instead we have to have lengthy explanations over and over because lacking that simple knowledge of "what it is" leads to all kinds of insanity.
Why do you think so many with so little knowledge end up in SW?
IT Buyers community, and the funnel that they use both encourage it. IT Buyers would not be expected to know what a SAN is, and funneling in with the common denominator being "a free, but not open, app that sends a lot of private data out and requires Windows but doesn't work well" makes for a very "entry level" tendency to people funneling into the community.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It's amazing to me how many lengthy discussions on SW come down to just not knowing what basic technology is and having crazy assumptions about it. Like if people just knew what SAN and NAS were it would answer 90% of threads. Instead we have to have lengthy explanations over and over because lacking that simple knowledge of "what it is" leads to all kinds of insanity.
Why do you think so many with so little knowledge end up in SW?
My guess is that it is because most IT people aren't really IT people. They may work in the profession but they don't have the critical thinking skills or ability to do much within it. SMBs aren't capable (willing?) of spending the money for competent IT people so they go for whomever is cheapest.
Most that I've seen don't actually work in IT, they are on the buyer's side so represent the business in acquiring IT, but don't do it themselves, at least not primarily.
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Wow, I just got muted for this post from days ago...
Why would someone mute me over that, especially days later when I've not been on the thread?
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Just the simplest clarification of a request is seen as hostile these days.
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Maybe Kopano users are over there
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It's amazing to me how many lengthy discussions on SW come down to just not knowing what basic technology is and having crazy assumptions about it. Like if people just knew what SAN and NAS were it would answer 90% of threads. Instead we have to have lengthy explanations over and over because lacking that simple knowledge of "what it is" leads to all kinds of insanity.
Why do you think so many with so little knowledge end up in SW?
Because they have been welcoming home users and other tech-tarded individuals for quite some time. "For IT pros" means diddly-squat over there, anyone with a computer and an email address to sign up is considered an "IT pro" on SW.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Why would someone mute me over that, especially days later when I've not been on the thread?
Almost sounds to me like someone is going about poisoning the well.
