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    • coliverC
      coliver @Minion Queen
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      @Minion-Queen said:

      Our neighbor took his motorcycle to work today. Awesome sound on December 11th!

      I got mine out over the weekend. Short, cold, ride but very refreshing.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned
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        @art_of_shred got rid of his a few years ago, working from home means you never have time to ride. But it is so cool to see people out and riding this time of year. Usually we are freezing and roads are icy half the time at this point in the year.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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          @Minion-Queen said:

          TGIF!!!! It's been a week.... can't wait for it to be over.

          Same here. Looking forward to weekend downtime.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Gorgeous morning on the Gulf. Bright sun, rough sea. Expecting a bit storm tomorrow.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              getting ready to click yes on crypto (I think) as soon as I get this user data copied to usb.

              You are actually going to let them pay the ransom?

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse
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                Digging through Server log and such to see why a server cycled four times over night. As near as I can tell, the server didn't cycle,.. maybe the ISP did... I went back to my CLI Up Time

                C:\Users\ntgadmin>systeminfo | find "System Boot Time"
                System Boot Time:          12/10/2015, 12:25:14 PM
                
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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

                    Yup,.. I looked at that first. It still reports 10/5/2015 as the last reboot

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

                      How can the hypervisor cycle and not the VM, unless the VM is on HA?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

                        How can the hypervisor cycle and not the VM, unless the VM is on HA?

                        The hypervisor puts the VM on suspend, as in stops executing all commands to and from that VM. To the VM it doesn't even realize it didn't exist for a few moment while the hypervisor rebooted.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

                          How can the hypervisor cycle and not the VM, unless the VM is on HA?

                          How can it not? The VM doesn't have any way to know that the world has stopped for a few minutes unless it has crashed or been told to shut down. To it, time just leaps forward and it doesn't remember what happened during those minutes.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

                            How can the hypervisor cycle and not the VM, unless the VM is on HA?

                            How can it not? The VM doesn't have any way to know that the world has stopped for a few minutes unless it has crashed or been told to shut down. To it, time just leaps forward and it doesn't remember what happened during those minutes.

                            What about what was in RAM? Is that some how saved? I suppose I could understand if the hypervisor paused the VM (saving the RAM state), rebooted, then started the VM again - is that a thing? if so - huh, didn't know.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

                              How can the hypervisor cycle and not the VM, unless the VM is on HA?

                              How can it not? The VM doesn't have any way to know that the world has stopped for a few minutes unless it has crashed or been told to shut down. To it, time just leaps forward and it doesn't remember what happened during those minutes.

                              What about what was in RAM? Is that some how saved? I suppose I could understand if the hypervisor paused the VM (saving the RAM state), rebooted, then started the VM again - is that a thing? if so - huh, didn't know.

                              Yup, RAM flushes to disk. It is called a "saved state." Same as your desktop going to sleep except that the VM has no idea it is happening because the VM itself has nothing to do with it.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                I suppose I could understand if the hypervisor paused the VM (saving the RAM state), rebooted, then started the VM again - is that a thing? if so - huh, didn't know.

                                It's not just a thing, it's the default behaviour 🙂 If you use VirtualBox on your desktop you will get the same thing.

                                Think of the VM as being put into stasis. Time passes outside the VM but the VM is "frozen". When it wakes up it feels like it just blinked, but the world outside is at a different point in time.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  That system OS did not cycle, but the hypervisor it is on might have, of course. What is leading people ot think that the "server cycled"?

                                  How can the hypervisor cycle and not the VM, unless the VM is on HA?

                                  How can it not? The VM doesn't have any way to know that the world has stopped for a few minutes unless it has crashed or been told to shut down. To it, time just leaps forward and it doesn't remember what happened during those minutes.

                                  What about what was in RAM? Is that some how saved? I suppose I could understand if the hypervisor paused the VM (saving the RAM state), rebooted, then started the VM again - is that a thing? if so - huh, didn't know.

                                  Yup, RAM flushes to disk. It is called a "saved state." Same as your desktop going to sleep except that the VM has no idea it is happening because the VM itself has nothing to do with it.

                                  Is this a typical thing that one would do when needing to reboot the VM host in a non HA environment?

                                  For example - my power outage the other day, would I have been OK just saved stating my VMs and having the host be offline for a few hours instead of shutting them down?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    That's the funny thing about memory that people rarely sit around and ponder. If I could record everything in your memory right now out to a disk somewhere... then I could dispose of your body. In five hundred years or in five million years I could take another body, load your memory into it and you would believe that "nothing happened" except whenever you looked at a watch, calendar or in a mirror you'd be confused because you can't figure out how you got where you were, why the time changed or why you look differently than you did - because you were "just" doing something else.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by Dashrender

                                      LOL - sure I understand that completely. I just hadn't considered it as part of the use case with VMs. Of course there's no reason it shouldn't work for VM's like it does for end users.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        That's the funny thing about memory that people rarely sit around and ponder. If I could record everything in your memory right now out to a disk somewhere... then I could dispose of your body. In five hundred years or in five million years I could take another body, load your memory into it and you would believe that "nothing happened" except whenever you looked at a watch, calendar or in a mirror you'd be confused because you can't figure out how you got where you were, why the time changed or why you look differently than you did - because you were "just" doing something else.

                                        If you are on a buying spree and enjoy survival horror check out SOMA. It is by the same devs that made Amnesia. It uses this idea effectively throughout the entire game.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver
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                                          That was a crazy amount of activity for a good 15-20 minutes there. Amazing for so early in the morning.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
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                                            Other then not having hot-swap bays... this is tempting - http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Proliant-DL165-G7-server-2x-12-core-AMD-Opteron-6172-48GB-RAM-750GB-HD-/221952681299?hash=item33ad692553:g:dwYAAOSwAYtWK-61

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